It’s amazing how hard you fight to be able to feel that slight dopamine rush when you troll kick someone.
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I’m sitting in my chair watching youtube and eating chips brother I’m not doing anything hard
It’s amazing how much gaslighting you people do to try to blame people for stuff they don’t participate in.
“They said something logical that doesn’t back me up! I’ll just make up lies and pretend they’re evil!!!”
Seriously, y’all need to get a grip.
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They don’t understand yet. Still waiting for them to understand. Maybe when the kick pandemic increases they will someday. Then they might understand vote kick can be exploited and abused.
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It’s amazing how hard you are fighting to make the queue significantly worse, including in ways that have already been demonstrated in the past.
I’ve been waiting 14 years. Maybe another 14 will show me the error of my ways.
They understand it perfectly. They are afraid that you will strip them of what tiny modicum of power they have in life. They need to be able to kick whoever, whenever, to feel something. It’s about control.
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You’d think I’d actually use the system then if this were true
What? Where have we claimed that we do anything y’all seem to think we do? Where in any of our replies have we said anything like that?
As a matter of fact, I even said that I don’t initiate vote kicks unless someone has been AFK for a while and even then, I ask the group first. I also said I hit “no” on the rare occasions where a vote even comes up on my screen if I see zero evidence of anything going wrong— which 9.9 times out of 10 it’s going to be “no.”
So please… gaslight me again.
Honestly WoW needs a option such that when your kicked from a group, a window pops up when you zone back into the game world; and explains the reason you were removed; as well as an option and right to appeal it to a GM.
I am fully aware it would raise wait-times for GMs but I feel it would be worth it. We all know human nature. If people thought that they could be actioned for abusing report post or using in-game tools to attack players, this sort of behavior would change over night.
Honestly a social vote system at the end of the dungeon would also improve positivity in groups. The only thing I truly miss about FFXIV is the fact that the people in the groups for Duty Finder tend to be friendly, kind and accepting; which contrasts how things are on WoW. If that could be replicated it would be a major improvement.
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What are you appealing for? To be put back in the group? To repeal the debuff that’s already gone?
And how is a GM supposed to know what happened? They don’t have video of every run…
They don’t need it in this case. If the reason for the kick is something like “Sux Lol.” or “< profanity word > bad tank”. That will speak for itself and an action can then be brought against the person who initiated the vote-kick for abusing in game tools to engage in gameplay sabotage.
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I don’t think this would be helpful in the overwhelming majority of situations.
There’s nothing to appeal. The only thing to report would be a chat violation, which is actually something that could be beneficial to add.
No, it would not be worth it. It’d be another ticket for them to do actually nothing with because there is nothing a GM can do about a vote kick, it’s not any rule violation or an account action.
It’d be an action for chat violations. It’s not gameplay sabotage to use the vtk system.
Getting kicked because you’re bad is a valid reason to get kicked though, they’re going to look at your appeal and say “nothing I can do”
A reason box? Sure. As long as it doesn’t have names in it, so people can’t go harass them afterwards.
Appeal? Why should a GM have jurisdiction over whether or not it was justified that someone thought the tank was pulling too fast and others agreed?
So if someone was playing badly, getting the group killed, because they wrote it down in a way you don’t like with “bad tank” or “sux,” the rest of the group should be sanctioned for that?
No. I don’t think so.
We’ll have to agree to disagree friend. I’ve seen some pretty rancid reasons for people getting kicked, and I’ve also had friends who said moments after “Why did we kick them” only to then get immediately kicked themselves for not agreeing with the cancerous hivemind that was engaged in said behavior.
Sometimes with very profanity laced reasons.
The kick forms would be recorded and logged. If any dev or GM that cared would looked into it for any racial slurs people put in the kick reasons that break code of conduct. As for now kick forms cannot be reported on.
This is entirely different from what the poster I responded to was talking about.
And you think that it’d be a benefit to just plaster that on the person’s screen? It is one of three things, either it is to their benefit to know why they got kicked, useless to the kicked player and non-actionable, or it’s just actionable language that you’d not want to put on someone’s screen as a dev
That’s an actual problem with the tool I can see, there should be the ability to report language in the reason given field because someone can put inappropriate language there.
Tears forever