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If it rewards hero track gear, it should have similar complexity to 7s and heroic Bloodbound Horror. Delves at T8 don’t have that, so they should increase the challenge provided to the point it’d kind of close.

This is not true and you know it. And even if it were true, it’s an irrelevant point since delves already award appropriate gear for the difficulty that for some reason, you just cannot wrap your head around.

And each of those rewards is lower ilvl champion track gear instead of 2 higher ilvl hero track items that the equivalent m+ rewards.

It absolutely is true, delves at T8 are absurdly easy and compete with heroic dungeons in terms of difficulty.

As for equivalent: If you are looking at equivalent loot levels, they drop the same level of loot. If you mean equivalent difficulty: Heroic dungeons drop significantly worse than champion 3

False and hence why your entire argument falls apart.

I’ve said it countless times but I’ll repeat it one last time for you. Delves themselves do not award hero track gear (maps are not worth mentioning). They only give credit to one in the vault and hence is a big part of the reason why arguments like yours are dishonest and deliberately misleading.

Objectively true, but I get that you apparently struggle with that. Also, delves objectively do reward hero track gear no matter how many times you ignore that fact, but I appreciate the lack of self awareness to call me dishonest.

So delves do not award hero track gear except in the cases when they do actually reward hero track gear?

And you’re calling other people dishonest lol?

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Yes, it is true. I never denied that fact. However you repeatedly ignore the critical differences I’ve already told you several times now. The fact that you act like you’ve got your fingers in your ears and continue to spout your lies tells me that you’re only interested in trolling this topic. As such, I will treat you as such and place you on ignore so I no longe have to deal with your repeated lies about this topic. :wave:

And nothing of value will be lost as you continue to make things up to suit your position.

It is very much dishonest to say that delves award hero track gear from the chest at the end, which is what trolls like Kiyoko repeatedly imply.

As I’ve said repeatedly, map drop rates are so low that it is entirely dishonest to use that as evidence for the blanket statement that “delves award hero track gear”.

Otherwise I will just say that a +7 awards myth track gear if blizz ever implements a similar system for them, despite the fact that the drop rate would be so low that the chances of anyone actually getting a piece of myth track gear would be negligible.

Trying to skew and mislead people with half truths is still lying. Stick to the reality on the ground.

I’ve collected plenty of maps throughout the season. I have a character dedicated solely to delves, and I’ve earned full hero track gear just from doing them.

The only one being dishonest here is you. You can talk about the differences between delves and Mythic+, but claiming that delves don’t award hero track gear is simply factually incorrect. You’re trying to distort the facts.

This is projection. The only one lying here is you.

…No, I do Delves because people leave M+ groups lol

Lmao, such hypocrisy. The only dishonest one here is you. You ignore the fact that people are trying to use blanket and vague statements that delves drop heroic track gear without adding the critical addendum that this is only true if you are extremely lucky enough to get a map to drop or that it’s credit for the vault. A classic case of attempting to mislead people by taking leaving out critical parts of the matter and running away with generalizations.

Because a single statistical point a trend makes? SMH. Meanwhile stats coming out of wowhead say 7%, but that is only polling people who actually report data back to wowhead, which means the real drop rate is far lower.

Oh look. Yet another troll who cannot accept the reality of the situation and who’s only interested in lying to others about what delves actual award in reality. What are you gonna say next? Anyone who runs ICC is gonna get Invincible? This meme seems appropriate for you:

Time to add you to the ignore list like the other trolls in this thread. Bye. :wave:

It’s for the best. If all you’re going to do is lie then I’d rather not discuss things with you in the future. I prefer having honest conversations.

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Please join my key, which i will intentionally brick by kicking you, so you can get a 5 day ban.

I will NOT do M+. I avoid group content due to visual issues. I don’t even do LFR.

Ive done 80 delves this season and have found 2 maps, this is not reliable farming

I thought this was going to be more of a workshop or tips thread. Super let down.

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You do delves because people don’t want to play with you.

No, I do Delves because I don’t want to deal with the M+ environment in general. Timed runs are lame, insisting on meta compositions is lame, trying to be the 1 DPS out of 100 who gets invited to the only group with a tank is lame, etc.

Everything about M+ is lame, and has been for several expansions. I just don’t have any interest in it this time around.

I agree with this for sure. Poor design there.
But I don’t agree with the rest. People leave groups because it turns out the pugs in the group aren’t worth the person’s time. That’s not really an m+ problem, but more like a gaming reality, or a people issue.

M+ is competitive in a very non-competitive, kids-gloves game.
So I get the the strong feelings.

I’d rather that than be bored in delves any day where no buttons that I press really matter.
And that one week where there was no M+, Raids, or rated PVP, there was only delves, to promote delves,… and blizz hacked away everyone’s Brann XP down to level 15 :joy:
What in tarnation, why would I even go back lol