Keep getting kicked in gamma dungeons

[Boomboy-windseeker]

Whats your excuse lol

[Robokappa-sargeras (Robokappa)]

how about “Aquila non capit muscas” ?

edit: lol

[Athur-faerlina]

Get this right,
You can “vote kick” anyone, but you can’t kick anyone by yourself alone in RDF.

[Athur-faerlina]

last week 2 of newcomer / returner thanked me for my advice (doing beta before gamma) after seeing they found it hard to settle in gammas
And now they all reach 5k+ gs and doing gamma without any doubt.
What did you do rather than sarscam?
Sarscaming can help ppl to prevent to be kicked in RDF?

[Tyrmaull-mankrik]

Keep on trying buddy talk is cheap post from your main. Stop projecting nowhere did I say anyone got kicked for not flashing. I’m just purely pointing out the trashy type of player you are.

[Tyrmaull-mankrik]

Everyone is a buyer at the start of phases… Icc 25 h loot is not going to 3500 gs whales.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Athur-faerlina

last week 2 of newcomer / returner thanked me for my advice (doing beta before gamma) after seeing they found it hard to settle in gammas
And now they all reach 5k+ gs and doing gamma without any doubt.

So you just gas lighted some people who didn’t know better about how gearing actually works.

[Athur-faerlina]

nah, they did know gearing. What they missed is how mechanic work in gamma (cuz they skipped beta), or sometime they did nothing wrong they still be punished because of undergear
Problem is BZ throw ppl into gamma by default RDFqueue
Tbh it should be betas > ICC dungs > gammas

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Athur-faerlina

nah, they did know gearing. What they missed is how mechanic work in gamma (cuz they skipped beta), or sometime they did nothing wrong they still be punished because of undergear

Except they weren’t 210 ilvl is plenty for gamma.

So you gaslighted them.

[Koish-whitemane]

@Brysonwotlk-whitemane

5k+ GS is literally fresh 80. Last tier could hit 5k GS day you hit 80 or that lockout week easy. Was trying to do my daily rdf for eofs got into a makirk group all sub 4k gs and one with liek 2700 i just left would rather not do the daily for that day then run with them. If i have double your GS expect to be kicked. or even if you are sub 5k you clearly dont know how to optimize your time and plan on wasting some of mine.

This guy GDKP’s lmao

[Athur-faerlina]

They were somewhere in 215 ilvl - 225 ilvl.
But yeah, ppl in betas 're more easygoing than ppl in gammas.
In betas, they could forgive someone even after 3 death, but in gammas a “vote kick” happens much sooner, especially against lower GS ppl

[Athur-faerlina]

clearly i’m not against 210 ilvl ppl in gamma.
I’m against the idea to throw 210 ilvl ppl to gamma by default RDF.
If it weren’t, maybe much less dramatic. But who know if it was intentionally set. At least this topic is very hot for Wotlk forum

[Tutall-whitemane]

I personally don’t vote to kick anyone unless they are trolling or repeatedly failing mechanics that are detrimental to the party. I have also never initiated a vote to kick. I find gs to be fairly irrelevant as class factors into it a lot too (a lower gs disc could heal more than myself generally in average fights within a range for just one example).

With all that said however I find it a little weird that some are on here saying if you meet an arbitrary number then no other factors matter. That to me is just as ignorant as saying the only thing that matters is gs.

In reality with a few exceptions on each side I think most are just being intentionally stubborn and not meeting in the middle simply for the sake of argument at this point.

[Scentsy-faerlina]

They probably won’t do anything because they don’t think that there’s a problem with groups being left to their own devices. Sorry if that’s not what you wanna hear

[Ottis-westfall]

That still doesn’t give me a statistic. What do you think the average item level is for players running gammas?

[Scentsy-faerlina]

Why do you need a statistic? Because you aren’t playing the game?

Based on what I’ve seen over the past couple weeks it’s been out, I’d say the average person running it now is is ~230-235 or so (not including the ICC geared people coming for the daily quick). Mid to high 4Ks gear score

[Ottis-westfall]

@Robokappa-sargeras

if the noobs spent as much time in self reflection as they do analyzing the elites, they’d get good.

I doubt there are many noobs playing this game anymore.

[Ottis-westfall]

@Scentsy-faerlina

Why do you need a statistic?

You’re the one who brought up the “average item level.” Just curious what that is.

@Scentsy-faerlina

~230-235 or so

Honestly I don’t look at GS, I only run FOS on the daily, so I’ll take your word for it.

[Scentsy-faerlina]

@Scentsy-faerlina

~230-235 or so (not including the ICC geared people coming for the daily quick). Mid to high 4Ks gear score

How’s this sound? Or do I need to go and poll it just for you to say the results are tampered?

[Kelliste-antonidas (Kelliste)]

@Athur-faerlina

clearly i’m not against 210 ilvl ppl in gamma.

clearly you are if you tell people to go to beta to gear up further. There is no point in going into beta dungeons. But really there isnt a point in gammas either. They are for the emblems of Frost and that is really it. Do you need scourgestones to gear up? No. You can get T9 4pc without it. T9 245 4pc however you have to do from gamma and I would NEVER tell anyone to go farm out heroics for triumph to then jump into gamma to then farm those out to get triumph AND scourgestones for their T9 4pc.

Also… in case people were forgetting, people were requiring a high ilvl for beta when it was current. 5k gs for that content, I seen it every single day last phase. So these same people are saying they were full of it since they are saying that people lower than 5k gs should be doing beta. They are admitting to just being gatekeepers and that was their goal all along.

These people dont like the RDF came to be and they want everyone to suffer, and in that case they should get a permanent vacation.