Over the course of the game from Vanilla to MoP a grand total of over a hundred million accounts were created. That’s how many people quit the game from one expansion to the next. This means that there are PLENTY of players to populate the gamut of servers from Classic through Wrath without an issue.
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It all sounds good on paper for sure. Just goes back to some of my earlier points in the thread. The more versions you create, the more fragmented the base is. The more versions you create, the more staff you need to tend to all of them.
I know they will look at it, but I also know it will come slowly. Blizzard is never the sort to act hastily.
You do realize the servers are virtual these days? If the server is a barren wasteland because nobody is using it, the footprint for it is going to be quite small. Realm mergers/combinations would likewise be inevitable at that point.
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But this is also why a lot of people are fighting Classic+, or even “Classic TBC” for that matter, because it will “pull people away” from their little corner of the world.
Thing is, Blizzard won’t release A “Classic TBC” product to “pull people away from Classic” they’ll be releasing it “to bring people back to WoW” because the estimation is going to be that they’ll gain (or keep) far more players from releasing “Classic TBC” than anything that is likely to be lost from Classic.
A lot of people are going to quit Classic long before Naxx comes out because they’ll have achieved their (non-raid) objectives by then.
A lot of people are going to quit after Naxx comes out and they “beat it.”
A lot of people will still be playing Classic regardless, that’s fine.
But at that point there are going to be a lot more people likely to be interested in TBC at that point than there are people playing Classic once you’ve reached that point. So while fragmentation of the population is concern, it’s still better for Blizzard to go ahead and pull the trigger and do it, because it actually grows the community even if it disrupts some others along the way.
Somebody could probably draw a Venn diagram to demonstrate. But it stands that not everybody has the same interests and goals, people need to realize that and respect it.
If you want the expansion hopping and retail resets that comes with the path of retail, why not stick to retail ?
Classic, was to get away from it…
Vanilla to Wrath is where my heart truly lies. I would go through that entire progression again without batting an eyelash. Might have really dry eyes though so I might have to keep shedding tears of joy in the process. Lmao.
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THAT would be the “Tech solution” and “User Experience” problem that they’d need to address. And it isn’t near as simple as you make it out to be. That’s a VERY complex issue with a lot of moving parts involved. But Party Sync in the 8.2.5 PTR has me wondering if they’re further along on that than I’d expect…
By who? Classic and BC are very different.
People are seriously never satisfied and this thread is partially an example of it.
It’s not enough that Blizzard finally relented on creating a Classic version of the game, now people are wanting for them to remake Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King?
I get that Blizzard doing Classic is proof that they can do this, but you all realize how long it took just for Classic to even be announced, right? I would hazard that Blizzard would not be willing to expend any further resources to develop yet another emulated server of an older expansion when they have an entirely different game to manage and update.
No…Ghyslain is mistaken. Classic+ is the theory that Blizzard could add new updates/content to Classic but still keep the level cap at 60. Just have new gear with good itemization and new raids/storyline. TBC is a whole different ballgame
The explanation of this can be found here: TBC is on the table!
A lot of the Private Servers have allegedly announced intentions to shutdown when Classic goes live. So a lot of those players are going to have few options on where to play besides Blizzard’s own servers.
Which isn’t to mention I think Blizzard’s legal team is going to start hitting a lot of those PServer operations like a ton of bricks come August 27th if they’re still online.
It happened in Vanilla too. But unless you knew people who were on or near to the bleeding edge of content, you weren’t likely to notice it.
Uh, it started in TBC. A really determined person might even manage to dig up some Dev interviews about it in regards to 10 man raids specifically.
“Bring the player, not the class” was a refrain from pre-launch TBC.
And if you’re going to do that in a 10 man raid, well that means you can’t throw content in that where only one class has the tools you need in order to handle a specific aspect of an encounter.
Which means either you simply don’t use those mechanics, in which case why does that class have the ability? Or you give other classes abilities which can also handle that mechanic…
I believe you’re right but the thing is, it made all specs viable for each class unlike the way Vanilla/Classic where some of them are broken and hybrid classes got pigeonholed into healing. Yes some homogenization occurred but it wasn’t to the point where we lost our unique buffs like Fort for priest and Arcane Int for mage etc. I’m ok with those changes as they weren’t quite so drastic
If the 2% of people who ever killed a Naxxramas boss quit because “wah no new raids this week,” it’s kind of…small-group focused…to call that a “content draught” or suggest that it was a problem for the game.
The only way a TBC or Wrath without flying would work is in the context of a “Classic+” setting. As that “+” is where the changes for things like making those areas accessible without a flying mount become an option, or simply changing the flying mount mechanic so the mounts cannot stay in flight indefinitely as somebody else suggested. But even that “tweak” would be a #change and outside of any “pure Classic” iteration of the game (re)development.
I want Classic+.Servers where you can xfer your 60 character for more 60 content post-naxx. If I wanted flying and LFG, I’d go play retail.
That was my response to all the people who were all doom and gloom over the potential release of TBC/Wrath and omg no flying it killed wpvp blah blah blah.
Let them keep their Classic and let us go to BC/Wrath where we can fly. Problem solved
Or you go with a tech solution. You end up with an inventory unique to each “content tier” and your skills/rulesets change as you transition between world states.
The inventory swap is probably the easiest part of that. The ruleset changes is probably very very frightening for any coder that has looked at what would be involved in making that work without a hard client reset(if it took less than a significant fraction of a man-year to achieve, I’d be impressed; although I’m sure they can break it down into a series of “discrete features” that they could slowly roll out between content patches or expansion packs…).
Of course, that then leaves the “user experience” side of it as they try to find a way for such transitions to not be easily abused, not too jarring, and make some degree of “sense” from a gameplay perspective. (Going to talk to a Bronze Dragonflight member for example)
Not quite. The rulesets ARE different between Vanilla 1.12/1.13 and TBC, especially the final version of TBC. Further complicating things is the leveling curve is different for TBC than it was for Vanilla. Which means that for TBC to be “a layer” on a Classic Realm, they’d have to be able dynamically change rulesets on the fly, among some other things.
They don’t have the tech… Yet. No word on if they’ve even looked into it, that’s quite likely to be a huge undertaking.
The “Easy way” is to have TBC on its own (virtual) server so they’re not dealing with conflicting and different rule-sets within the same memory space. If they do layer it, that means they’re moving towards something I’ve been babbling about for some time now.