Just let the non flying crowd zone and play with themselves in a server

But we still have marathons and car races irl. People who like running, run. People who like racing cars, race cars.

If you’re saying you don’t want flying but will use it to get your daily chores done faster then that’s a bigger statement on how engaging the content is or how little fun you’re actually having.

And before anyone mentions gathering professions getting more material and therefore more gold, you’re both being massively outstripped by the level 1 in stormwind who moves 20m from auctioneer to mailbox as he profits from your hard work.

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So from all previous flying threads when someone says “flying should be available at max level” what do you think they mean?

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I dont’ mind leveling through without flying but they shouldn’t be making us wait longer than that.
As far as the people who play this game who don’t want flying…if you gave them their own server there would be so few of them I think they’d never see each other. lol

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That as soon as you hit max level, you should be able to fly.

Which I don’t agree with. I like the current system they have, where you have to earn it. Like you have had to do, in EVERY version of the game since flying was introduced.

Now they have done it differently every expansion however. BC/WotLK was gold, and TBH i dont remember after that because I took a break. But I think it wasn’t until WoD where they changed it from buying it to pathfinder.

We were okay with flying for gold right at max level as well. And did we actually have to wait for max level to get flying in cata - I don’t think so.

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Getting gold wasn’t time gated. Don’t try to spread the lie flying has always been gated like this. You could farm literally all day and have flying in a week. I had fast flying (the 5k gold version) on THREE level 70s before BC ended. It wasn’t just a “sit and wait until we decide flying should be available”.

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Way to take my post out of context. I explicitly say I don’t remember how it was handled after WotLK because I took a break until WoD which is when they changed it to pathfinder.

I never said it was, are you daft? I’m just saying it was a different way to earn flying. Which depending on the player, could be already have the gold before hitting the level requirement, or months after if you don’t actually try to make gold.

Why don’t they just tie flying and non-flying to Warmode?

Most of the gripe comes from people talking about World PvP being soured by people’s ability to just fly in or out, so eliminate it.

Can just debuff everyone with “The FACTION is watching the skies, flying mounts are not advised” and just shoot them down after 5 seconds in the air or something.

I don’t mind Pathfinder for unlocking it, but I do mind that they time-gate the crap out of it. The first Pathfinder should be achievable when you hit max level. Gold is cheap way of getting it, but maybe could be an alternative (buyout the achievement in a sense). I like FFXIV’s idea of finding spots that you must attune to understand the place and wish they would just implement that.

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See, now THIS is feedback.

Not, “WhEn YoU hIt MaX lEvEl”

You were claiming we had to earn it every expansion. I am not sure we did in cata.

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Go back and read the post, I admit in the third paragraph (in case you didn’t count after quoting out of context to make your point look good) that AFTER WOTLK I DON’T KNOW HOW IT WAS HANDLED.

Actually here, let me quote it FOR YOU.

His point is, when arguing on these forums, it’s always meant immediately when you hit max level.

You’re arguing semantics now instead of the actual argument.

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Really? Am I now? Because I don’t use the same terminology that you guys do because I prefer to be descriptive and thorough with my points and arguments and don’t like to assume?

We didn’t because much of Cata required flying and we were also in the old world which they changed specifically so we could fly there.

Yes I know, that is you saying how you earned it was done differently.

I am pointing out this statement might be incorrect. Since I think it was just given for free in cata.

You claimed flying has always been gated. Now we established in an early post that we were talking about the literal time gate on flying. The “you’ve earned part 1 now sit and wait for an arbitrary amount of time”. To which you said:

We’re not talking about earning it. We’re talking about the wait for it. Earning flying was not gated like this in the past.

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Yes. That’s exactly what “arguing semantics” means.

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Nonsense.

We just don’t agree, and think you should see to your unreasonable compulsion to control other people and force your play style on others.

If enough people agreed with you enough to choose not to fly, you wouldn’t feel the need or feel compelled to force everyone to be grounded.

But there isn’t.

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So because I don’t want to assume and take shortcuts and prefer to be thorough with my descriptions and explanations you don’t think I’m arguing seriously. Ok cool.