That still doesn’t necessarily mean “no longer obtainable forever”. They could add it back into the game and it becomes “no longer obtainable until we add it back”. Even if Blizzard said they would never return its not something that I am okay with because Blizzard said it. I disagree with the removal of content in a video game.
Alas, it would make perfect sense of people to continue to overcome the challenge since it’s a game where such is possible. Same challenge, same tuning, same rewards.
It is the challenge of the devs to force you all to unlearn this toxic behavior based on time-based exclusivity, allowing players (both new and returning) to access evergreen challenges in order to get the rewards.
Too much of this game is discarded, and too many of you believe others achieving the same success diminishes your personal happiness 
The fact its no longer obtainable is part of what makes it important. I took the time to do the challenges when they were available, not because I cried on the forums because I didn’t do it before and now want blizz to fix that choice for me.
The game is PLENTY accessible to everyone. Last I checked, not having the MT appearance doesn’t stop anyone from doing anything in current content. Last I looked, people want links to AHOTC for current content, not past content, when forming groups. No one looks at your transmog to determine if you are getting in content either.
Legit lol’d and pretty much sums up this thread.
“I didn’t earn it but I want it NOW!”
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I can’t decide if its more sad or amusing that these threads can’t seem to avoid all the ham-fisted attempts at emotional manipulation. Here is a tip: If your argument can be summed up as “YOU’RE A BAD PERSON IF YOU DON’T AGREE WITH ME”, you’ve probably lost your way.
Blah blah blah,
I was there and did done this thing, look at my sclusive items and drool.
But it’s wants’s it, we needs’s it, it is the precious.
Who cares, mage tower was a time waster, like everything else. Blizzard creating a new carrot on the same worn out stick.
No what really is toxic behavior is crying that others have something you want, and you can’t get it anymore…but sure, its others that are toxic, not you. Much like how its not your fault you couldn’t please your GF and she left you for the dude that could. Its her fault for leaving, not yours. You will never get Kathy back dude, you just have to let her go. (removed assumption because unsure how many pump chump you really are so I shouldn’t assume)
It shouldn’t be, which is my point.
Your pride should be tied to overcoming the challenge, not because you did it at a certain point.
You should celebrate everyone wanting to challenge themselves as you did.
The systems design has long contributed to toxic player culture.
Again, last point:
Nobody wants the appearances just because
They want the opportunity to challenge themselves on equal difficulty for the appearances.
Hell, make it harder than it used to be if you so desire.
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“I didn’t earn it, I want to be able to earn it.”
Is not it?
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Or make a new one, and stop trying to recycle content instead of making new content
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Then you’ll have to make yourself a time machine friend.
Making evergreen systems isn’t recycling content, but rather undoing a failure of the game’s design for many years:
No one wants to do the SAME content ad infinitum…except those that want something others don’t have. Much like how that one dude has Kathy, and you don’t now. (I am gonna laugh if you had an ex named Kathy)
Or you can use political methods. Organize a party, rallies, petitions … Everything that political parties do.
Nope, I responded to your post about raising children to accept the world the way it is by saying I’m glad people didn’t think like you in in the 1840s and 1890s. If they had then they’d have just accepted slavery and women not having rights. But way to misquote me.
Because it was. State rights, the election, military protection, economic issues. I’m not saying that slavery was not a huge reason, simply that it was not the only reason. Maybe get educated? Or at least be willing to do a google search where you could find this answer in about 30 seconds (depending on internet speed of course).
Can’t earn what is gone.
That is like asking for earning the right to a Silver Star medal from WW2, you didn’t get it when it was relevant.
Limited time is just that limited.
Lets focus on a new Tower with a new Skin. Then those who didn’t get the last one can earn this and those that did get the last one can earn a new one. Everyone Wins.
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That won’t do, because it’s not really about the content removal, as you and I know perfectly well (despite the disingenuous claims of some), but about the lootz. In particular the furry kind.
Creating evergreen systems they can build upon is actually celebrated game design that the rest of the industry has adopted.
Because its not the one other people want, but yes. You seem to keep forgetting that I have all of the MT appearances I want and am only trying to help out other people, not myself. I could easily take the same stance as you since it wouldn’t affect me at all to do so, but I’m not as selfish as that and don’t need special cosmetics to flex my epeen/ego.
This. Exactly.
I’ve been trying to get a straight answer here too. What exactly was promised, when and where?
What they are actually talking about is a design goal, and those change all the time.
I didn’t say ‘better’.
I said ‘more visually distinct’. It’s flashy. You can spot it at a distance. This is the sort of transmog/visual style that a lot of players want.
Yes. Thanks. That’s the exact point I’m making.
There is one form that is really distinct from the others.
Sigh. Okay, let me try and paraphrase this yet again.
I mean visually distinctive from other druid forms. This is the point of transmog - giving your avatar distinctive flair to differentiate it from other characters of the same class/spec.
Uh…yeah?
You do realize what feedback is, right? It’s providing your opinion.
Again, it’s bad enough when people start playing point scoring ‘gotcha’ games, and nitpicking everything - but it’s worse when they do it badly.
When you have to resort to ad-homs to attack another position, you cede the argument. Because it indicates that you cannot actually defend your own position.
Again, you sort of are making our case for us here, in that the only objection to these forms coming back is spite.
It’s pretty common-sensical to anticipate a new player coming in and being immediately discouraged at how many meaningful customization options are locked off to them simply because they didn’t play at the right time.
Remember when I said you tend to argue in bad faith? You are doing it again here.
Obviously, we can’t obtain the data here because we don’t have access to it. And you know this, which is why you shift the argument from an opinion based one, to a data driven one. It’s an interesting combination of a gap fallacy and sealioning.
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