Self worth should never be tied to when you played but simply overcoming a challenge. When that challenge is overcome doesn’t matter.
You quite clearly are either having reading comprehension issues or love to cherrypick. Do you not see his “at the time” remark?
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It’s so pretentious to quote yourself.
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Thats not epeen flexing, because I never said I was proud to have earned those appearances. I could literally care less, I just got them because they looked cool. I’m also saying that epeen flex is not a justifiable reason to keep them out of the game.
Yeah, when people try to flex their epeen at me I toss it back in their face because its toxic. If your so proud to have done a thing that many players (I never said all) consider to be trivial then I don’t know what to say. Hold onto that if you want, but thats not a good argument in my eyes for keeping something out of the game. If you want to give me an actual good reason for keeping it out of them game then we can have a discussion, but so far all I’ve seen is “But muh epeen size”.
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Because instead of raiding, or doing literally anything else, these people took their time to do the challenge because it was going away. That exclusivity, matters,well to anyone that doesn’t want it to matter for their talking points.
Someone ignores the fact they are still speaking in anecdotal evidence. If it was so wasy to do there wouldn’t be so many people asking for it back…
No, i didn’t that’s why I used the same exact phrase, I wouldn’t throw stones if you can’t do the same thing (reading comprehension)
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And yet, I am correct:
You get over how your self worth is tied to exclusion of others because you’re a self-admitted casual who does no PVP or PVE and you earnestly believe your personal happiness will be reduced if others have what you have by overcoming the same level of challenge in another period of time?
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So when you denigrate other people it’s not “flexing” but if other people express that they feel value in something they achieved, that is toxic behavior.
I understand some people here are ambivalent, and others, with an agenda, support your position but what do you say to all your fellow players out there that have earned prestigious time locked items, not just the MT but all of them, what do you say to them? Too bad? Is that your answer? Too bad, because I want a bi-pedal bear, we have to change how everything works?
Do you know how selfish that comes across as? You seem to show no respect for your fellow players at all. All in service to your own wants. I don’t think anyone should take anything you say seriously.
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And whats to stop people from behaving like this again if its re-released? Especially since Legion Timewalking will be on like a 4 to 6 month cycle, it’ll be up rarely enough.
From what I’ve seen a lot of people asking for it back never had the chance to do it because they weren’t max level or didn’t play Legion at all. I have yet to see a single post in this 1000+ reply thread asking for the appearances to be handed to them for free. If you wanna find one feel free to quote it at me, and I’ll disagree with that person as well.
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That…is their choice to not have played or had a max level character dude. Them not playing is not an excuse to bring it back…that’s never been an excuse to bring anything back. I didn’t play during TBC when the WotLK prepatch hit. I didn’t get the chance to have the undead slayer recolor of the t2 pally armor. I don’t make posts crying about wanting it. Why? Because, I know that it was a limited time thing and I don’t feel entitled for blizz to protect me from reality.
Same applies for the MoP Armor set I didn’t bother to do.
Or the WoD weps I didn’t bother to grind for.
Or the mounts associated with them.
Or any of the glad mounts I didn’t bother to do.
All because, I read “limited time thing” and go “Oh, ok, that sucks but is what it is. Better make sure I get what i want next time”
Like an adult.
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It is actually because it reinforces “sunk cost fallacy” and makes the game unappealing for new players. Blizzard’s philosophy of “discarding past content that was beloved” is no longer sustainable or justifiable in the industry landscape.
Return mage tower, keep it a challenge, make the content evergreen.
As I emphasize here:
I have brought in girlfriends into playing wow. Friends into wow. Online buddies to hang out with to in wow. My child into WoW. They ALL see my werebear form, etc, think its cool as heck. Ask how to look like that. I tell them “it was a limited time thing” and you know what every single person has done? Shrugged and said ah that sucks, wanna go quest? Even my child that was 10 at the time, understood that limited time things exist, and can handle the realization maturely. Are you saying all new players have less emotional maturity than a 10 year old?
Edit: and my kid REALLY loved the sparkle cat, loving cats and sparkle effects. She even wanted to play with my druid from time to time. You know what she said though “yeah that sucks, but hey I just got a tree cat so thats cool” Funny how that works when you don’t think the world owes you literally everything
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No, because I’m not using it as something to hold over someone’s head how awesome I am.
When they want to use that to keep it out of the hands of other players who would like the chance to earn it themselves, yes, I would consider that pretty toxic.
Sorry, we don’t all have this big agenda, we just want people to have access to cool appearances in a video game. This isn’t some big conspiracy or plan to ruin others peoples gaming experience.
I say that they’ve had time to use them and flex.
My answer is only “Too bad” if your trying to use having these things as some sort of flex against other players. I mean whats your answer to being against bringing it back? Is it “Too bad”?
What is this about changing how everything works? Bringing back the MT as a challenging piece of content is now somehow changing how everything works? What?
You know theres a lot of irony in this statement. If they brought back the Mage Tower I would probably not earn any of the appearances that I do not already have, which is 28/36 (not flexing just a statement). I have the WoD cm weapons which are account wide, so I’d gain nothing there either. The only MoP cm set I’d even want that I don’t have is druid. I have DK, Mage, Paladin, Warlock, Warrior, and Shaman. I personally don’t care for Rogue, Priest, Hunter, or Monk.
If by show no respect you mean asking for something to be brought back that would not personally benefit me in the slightest then yeah. But that doesn’t really make any sense lol.
Yeah, my own wants of wanting other people to be able to earn something I have already. I’m sorry I’m so selfish.
I personally don’t think anyone should take anything all these people trying to gatekeep to keep their epeens and egos inflated are saying seriously.
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All he is doing is trying to inflame the issue by conjuring this idea that it somehow hurts business by alienating new players - a claim he fails to (and cannot) back up. So it’s just mumbo-jumbo to support an untenable position when looked at from the perspective of all players, not just the niche he purports to represent.
As opposed to the people with less emotional maturity than a 10 year old girl, who I can say cried when in the book she was reading, her favorite character broke “the stick” (some important relic or something in the story). So, really…you are actively saying you are fine with having less emotional maturity…than that. Colo, good for you?
No, thats just common sense. If you alienate new players to a game it will eventually die off.
I’m sure you people wanting to flex your inflated egos and epeens aren’t a niche at all right? Lol.
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I find when people dissect sentences and post numerous quotes like that with one liners, it appears rather infantile. You can succinctly address a person in a meaningful way without resorting to wall-framing it.
You have an agenda, it serves you - and there are a few in the same boat as you - but that by no means is justification to change how prestige or time locked items works.
If it’s all just inflated egos, I have to wonder why you even care at all then? If anything, it means your apathetic.
I get you don’t empathize with what other players worked for, I do empathize. I believe the company also empathizes. I think your motives are transparent and your arguments weak.
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At this point just do it. We’ve already seen Blizzard go back on countless things they said would never happen, what’s to stop them from going back on this too?
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Being a casual, completing the challenge on my Uhdk was a personal achievement. There are other appearances I would’ve liked to have, but I think instead of making these mage tower appearances available for everyone again, maybe they could create new challenge appearances with different rewards that are also time sensitive? Just a thought.
I like it when games have items exclusively for those who’ve earned them in the time given to do so. That’s just my opinion of course.
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I echo your sentiment. Preserve what’s been earned for those that have earned it and open new opportunities with new challenges. I think that is the fairest, most sensible path forward.
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Your such a great friend. Wonder how many of them would be as against bringing them back as you are though since they don’t have them. Either way, way to flex and gatekeep toward your friends/girlfriends.
I’d like to ask where the people asking for it back have been immature. Also gate keeping toward your 10 year old kid as well? Father of the year award to you sir.
Have yet to see anyone throwing a temper tantrum over this. Maybe you could quote us a post.
Ask her if she’d like for the sparkle cat to be put back in the game? I’m gonna go ahead and say her answer is yes.
Wanting an appearance in a video game now means you think the world owes you everything. Nice.
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