Just hire stoopz as a pvp consultant

no, the being locked in is what is hated.

Man you’ve been outratio’d on every single one of your comments, nobody here agree’s with you, you’re obviously wrong, idk why you keep posting lol just take the L and go thank u

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I am at work, I pay for a sub, because I want to, I’m allowed to, there was a bird in the air 15 years ago, does it really matter?
Because there isn’t a single thing you are anyone else is going to be able to do to stop me as long as I follow the rules of the forum.

I couldn’t care less if someone agrees with me or not, when I actually give my opinion that is.
My self worth isn’t based on the opinions of internet strangers, especially ones who don’t even know me.

But it’s ok keep seeking validation from what is basically a vapid popularity contest most of the time, doesn’t affect me at all.

Probably gonna make some friends mad… but this seems like such a non-issue for 99% of the players who post on the arena forums. Unless this affects Conquest gear… does it really matter if you get your BG gear to ilvl197 when arena goes live 2 weeks in and we start replacing BG gear with Conquest?

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that’s not the point, the point is people want bg gearing to be efficient like how it used to be, these changes are moving in the complete opposite direction of that

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How so? BG gear being ilvl 197 seems pretty over the top for never stepping into a competitive mode. Also, outside of BG grinders only, who is going to sit on BG gear only for a whole expansion?

Why would you not upgrade your armor to conquest set?

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how is that over the top? that’s worse than normal raid ilvl lmao and just to get it to 197 you have to do like 500 hours of bgs

who is going to sit on bg gear the entire expansion

nobody? again that’s not the point, bg gear has always been a stepping stone to conquest gear, giving people who want to gear thru pvp a viable option to bridge the gap so they have a decent set of gear while they’re grinding out their conquest set. it makes gearing up alts fast and efficient, which again these changes are the complete opposite of

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PvE = Progression
PvP = Competition

Don’t you want to be able to hop into any pvp mode on a whim and not be handcuffed by gear?

Arena = No Gear
BGs = No Gear
World PvP = Go effing nuts

Gear does not belong in instanced pvp.

(and if you need progression then get cosmetics - shiny weapons/armors/mounts)

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Have you even bothered to actually read how loot works for the pvers?

go away you’re annoying

Oh man, I got the goat

This is a MMORPG. No such thing. More brainwashed by Ion players I guess.

197 honor gear , on top of being an OBSCENE grind the ilvl is so low that it makes playing alts miserable. Want to try a new class? Guess you’re spamming m+ then capping conquest for 2 weeks or raiding until your ilvl isn’t TWENTY-NINE below bis geared players and you can FINALLY try out this new alt. Oops don’t like the class - start over and try again in 2 more months.

This doesn’t even mention the asinine rating requirements that completely screw alts from EVER pvp gearing.

Except bc-wod all starting honor gear sucked compared to everything else, it wasn’t until their second season of their respective xpacs did the honor gear become worth something in the form of previous seasons conquest.

And before anyone tells me about resilience bc resil just reduced the chance you could crit

Resilience reduced the damage taken from critical strikes and spell critical strikes, reduced the chance of suffering a critical strike, and reduced the effect of mana drain spells.

4.0.1 Resilience no longer reduced the chance to receive a critical strike. Each point of resilience provides about 0.01% damage reduction against all damage done by players and their pets or minions.

This is a bit of nostalgia coloring the memory, it wasn’t until MoP where pve wasn’t much use in instance pvp outside a few trinkets, it was just a good starting point.

Eh… I think he’s more known for his work in StarCraft, which cares a lot about competitive balance.

Apparently, Blizzard moved him to Diablo IV, but that hasn’t come out yet.

Are you taking into account the whales and obiters who will funnel loot into people? Because that’s unique to pve.

I sure am and that is what we call an outlier factor, would have to armor stack to make it work and early part of current content that would be a tall ask.
Not to say it wouldn’t happen, but yall aren’t taking into account that gear didn’t really inflate in stats all that much this time around.

not yet

i’d bet we have like 150k hp by the time the expansion wraps up lol.

I have a hard time seeing the word ‘thrice’ and not assuming the author is a 1337 gamer with internet courage.

It’s actually so stupid how inflated stats become as time go on in the more recent xpacs now. Compared to say wotlk where you just go from 14k hp -> 27k hp (17k hp - 30k hp if u were plate melee).

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In MoP and WoD PvP gear wasn’t handcuffed. Quite simply everyone had the same matched conquest ilvl —> No one won because of Ilvl, they won because of skill.