Except we already know you can vote kick people for whatever reason. You can report people for whatever but we already know what the end result will be lol.
Abusing the system means exploiting it in ways that were not intended by its designers, often to gain an unfair advantage or to harm others. In the context of the vote-kick feature, it means using the option to remove players from a group for reasons that are unjustified or malicious, rather than for legitimate reasons like disruptive behavior or poor performance. This can lead to unfair treatment of players and a negative gaming experience.
That could change tomorrow and youâd agree with it, correct?
k, so assuming this is a problem (I canât say whether it is or not as I donât group up anymore and havenât experienced this ever even when I did) so far the possible solutions are:
- add a reason selection for the vote kick
- make it account wide
- have it be tiered time-wise.
The last one I disagree with going past 30 min debuff because there are also cultural reasons people get kicked, as in you come from a place where communication is more abrupt and direct which in other regions comes off as rude.
Then you have the perception of the game and itâs value to the individual, which wonât be the same as others youâll be playing with.
Then you have playstyle differences, priority differences.
All these things come into play when you have a game thatâs global, has a global community of players and while this is a really cool thing, itâs also a huge pita because youâre going to have aggravations and misunderstandings.
So maybe 15 minutes for the 1st offense/kick, providing the kicked gets to know the reason and the max time debuff for a kick stays at 30.
That would seem more fair to me but this is all based on the assumption this is an actual problem.
Maybe because of how it is now and because itâs a global game thereâs just no way for the players to know if this is a legit problem or just something stupid that happens on occasion and can to any of us.
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Well duh. Unfortunately that doesnât apply here though lol.
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âŚwhich is invalid, since you canât invite someone into a random instance group thatâs in progress.
That said, they really need to make vote kicking have more of a consequence for overusing it. It should be used to remove actually toxic/problematic people (i.e. someone intentionally pulling extra mobs and wiping the group, then trying to foist the blame onto someone else, or someone who either intentionally does nothing, or went AFK for an extended period with no reason), not people wearing a leveling âclownsuitâ, or wanting to, get this, get loot from bosses.
If someoneâs overusing the kick system, they should no longer be able to issue votes to kick until a certain amount of time has passed.
you have to move around their joke of making Blizzard the scapegoat here.
Bliz says the vote kick cant be abused. So naturallly the misery projecting sorts will use that to excuse THEIR behavior.
What you do here is dont say the vote kick is abusedâŚbliz says the TOOL cant be abused and the malcontents agreeâŚbut instead accurately state that PLAYERS are abused using the vote kick who did nothing to deserve being kicked.
You have to play the 5 year old semantics games in here with some, sadly enough
Iâm glad we agree that this ultimately comes down to crowd weight against Blizzard stubbornness. If people end up being actioned over it then they get actioned.
If you simply roll with what daddy Blizzard decrees then what do you stand to gain from arguing it?
I do enjoy people being neck deep in arguments and playing like they are above it all though.
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What crowd weight? A couple posts from randos on the forums that are clearly leaving out details have literally zero weight towards anything lol.
I am above it all.
Youâre trolling while on vacation from a bad weeb game. Iâm sorry bro.
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Agreed, retail WoW is hot garbage.
Youâve paid to be here for literally years to say this. Itâs kind of sad.
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Theres like 80 versions of the game lolâŚ
Can someone be added to a random queued group? How does that even work?
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Well Iâm personally struggling to find a reason that it needs to be changed, so I guess when I âroll with what daddy Blizzard decreesâ itâs because I generally think itâs a good and fair system 99.9% of the time, donât see a necessity to change it based on the 0.1%, and havenât seen a better solution if it did warrant change.
The argument for changing it seems to be that it has the potential to be âabusedâ, by which they mean people get kicked for stupid reasons, but the thing is, 1) any system is going to have the potential to be abused in some way, so 2) Iâm fine with kicking someone for their transmog being the way it can be âabusedâ, because 3) it happens so rarely that itâs actually not worth thinking about.
The problem I see most is that people tend to get kicked for valid reasons, and because theyâre incapable of self-reflection and figuring out those reasons, they think itâs for no good justified reasons, and they conflate that with âkicked for transmogâ in the same âno good reasonâ category.
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Which is not the vote kick system. You were already specifically quoted why it was implemented:
So youâre incorrect. Again.
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No such thing as âno good reason.â At the end of the day, the reason is the same in literally every single instance: âwe no longer want to play with this person.â
100% agree with all three.
That would certainly be an acceptable start to revamping the kick system.
you certainly have my vote if its moving in the right direction.
We could try that out and see if it needs tweaked more from there.
Its like that thing where some folks will say that there arent any cases of armed self defense because we have no official statistics.
Well, we dont have any because police reports dont ask for that kind of informationâŚthey should
In this, we dont have reliable abuse of players being kicked data because blizzard does the same thing the police doâŚturn a blind eye to the details.
IF they wanted to, they could allow us to report bogus kicks EVEN IF they arent gonna act on them, so at least some reasonable sample of data existed to examine and maybe figure out if its a real problem or not.
Bliz cant even pay customer support for god sakeâŚLMAOâŚso its a pipe dream for me to even suggest that theyâll do anything but do what cops doâŚkeep their heads in the sand and ignore abuses of some against other human beings.
Only you could shift this conversation from âI hate the vote to kick systemâ to âThose dang copsâ.
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Only a true, stable genius.