Unsubbing soon as I see people with War Mode on flying around.
I think they’re making gotta have WM off in order to fly in BfA zones, which I think is a great idea, but uncertain. I usually have WM off anyways, so it doesn’t matter with me there.
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The last post was a few hours ago… What am I looking for? It looks like people are still making threads in it.
Because, MAYBE-- Just maybe… If enough people on the forums says, “wait a minute-- this isn’t an issue at all, this is just the vocal minority making @#$& up.” – Maybe Blizzard won’t pay attention to said minority, and WILL actually address one of those IMPORTANT issues they haven’t gotten around to fixing yet!
A crazy thought that Blizzard might actually read forum posts, right?
Yes, time gating and rep-grinding in general is an issue. But you have it backwards otherwise: NO ONE IN GAME CARES ABOUT FLYING. The playerbase cares about quality. NEVER, outside the echo-chamber of the forums, is flying ever brought up.
Furthermore, the people who left this game did not leave it because of flying, and they CERTAINLY will not come back because of flying. They will come back when, or if, the state of the game improves.
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The last post was a few hours ago… What am I looking for? It looks like people are still making threads in it.
It is staring you in the face.
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You say that flight isnt an issue, yet they need to fix the underlying issues and then you say.
Yes, time gating and rep-grinding in general is an issue
Maybe…just maybe… there IS a way to solve at least one problem, one way to stem…or at least slow…the exodus of players at the very same time. Take away a reason that people are quitting and give them reason to stay
Kill two birds with one stone.
How?
Cut out the timegate and let people fly now.
“People arent leaving because of flight”
Yes. Yes they are.
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For $15/mo and $50 per expansion you have these options:
- sub and play
- don’t sub and don’t play
You can have this option for $60,000,000 (and 4 years delay):
- tell designers what their rules “should” be
You seem to have the prices confused. I hope this helps. Have a nice day!
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And that may be the straw that breaks this camel’s back. These two new continents are truly designed around flying so for them to withhold flying out of petty spite just doesn’t work for me.
I have jumped through their hoops like a good little Gnome so denying the rewards is well… bad.
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The thing is though, the devs are kind of in a rock and hard place about giving flight to the players in a reasonable amount of time. Flight would make the content they have produced so much more quick and simply point out another problem that the masses would pounce upon.
I would love to fly, but they purposely extend the flight carrot because it is the only way to pad out the expansion and log in times now. Sadly I have to ask how many times do people have to make that clear? We all know the answers and it is not like we are going to get any real words of wisdom from the forum masses on this. Those that want flight are screaming in to the raging wind and will get nothing but sarcasm and ridicule for something that the development team added in the past and have regretted ever since.
I support you OP and your dedication on the topic but this thread will simply fade away from being a focus to be replaced with why someone gets 5 percent more of something than another person.
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I’m not interested in getting in this fight but I would like to place my chip with the release flying crowd.
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Wrong again. The fact is, no one talks about flying because they are busy doing other things, even trade chat doesn’t bring it up, because there are more immediate topics, even when it comes to trolling, or your “typical” discussion.
No one is going to log into the game, and go into trade chat (or the like) SOLE for the purpose of complaining about flying.
Yes, even you cited and agreed with all the things I said were the actual issues. The entire reason you want flying is as a poor man’s work around, which is just silly. You aren’t quitting because of flying, you’re quitting because Blizzard failed to deliver a quality game experience.
No, they are leaving because Blizzard did not deliver a quality product. And those quality issues are the ones Blizzard needs to focus on to correct their mistakes; RNG overload, repetitive game play, un-engaging content, and general burnout caused by the like.
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[quote=“Tenchu-draenor, post:103, topic:103375”]
WoW’s biggest uptick happened in BC, and BC sure as heck wasn’t as easy and accessible as WoW is now.
[/quote] It was still a new bright, and shiny game back then. Heck even into wolk, it was still kinda new. Even if they would of never changed a thing from tbc until now, I would bet they would not have anywhere near the numbers they had back then. Only people still around now are more, or less the addicts who wont stop playing regardless of what they do, and you are proof of that lol. Just like that 3, or 4 that keep spamming lfr threads. They are still here, just like the anti flyers. Hate a feature so bad, and yet are still here lol. But according to you, and a few of the other forum lurkers around here, nobody could ever quit because they grew up, and moved on with their lives, and don’t feel like playing teenager games anymore. Oh no it always has to be for the changes made to a game lol. That’s how addicts think.
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Flying doesn’t waste Blizzard’s time. It’s been in the game since BC, and been used by players largely without issue. That is until WoD, when Blizzard decided to make it an issue. And flying is “available” in BFA already; it just needs a hotfix to turn it on. It draws away virtually zero resources.
The other “problems” won’t be fixed because all of the top talent has been diverted to their mobile games initiatives. Did you miss Blizzcon or don’t you have a phone?
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The sub numbers and MAU’s tell a different story…
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You aren’t quitting because of flying, you’re quitting because Blizzard failed to deliver a quality game experience.
Im not happy about a lot of things…but what you dont get is the flight gating was the last straw.
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After I get to maximum level, I don’t really care too much about flying. Did not bother with it all through legion, and I will not bother with it if/when it is released for bfa. Is it really that critical?
For me, it’s about making my preferences known clearly and unconditionally so that there’s a record, because my fear is that if everyone who wants flying sooner rather than later is silent, that will just allow The Powers That Be to use the argument that no one really wants flying anyway. Do I expect change? Of course not. But I still think it’s important to voice my preferences out loud.
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They will do what they want regardless
While you are correct, there are many other issues that need attention, however, flight is easy to enable. Forgive me if someone has already mentioned it, but as it was explained to me by someone much more knowledgeable, flight is nothing more than a hotfix patch to enable flight in the new zones if the developers have actually “finished” all the new zones, which should have been done before the expansion was released. That’s a big “if”, all things considered.
For those that want ActiBlizz to just remove it entirely, forgive me if this offends you, but you are foolish. Flight draws people to the game, that is a fact, and one that ActiBlizz is well aware of. Did they not advertise that flight was enabled when they turned it on in Legion? Why did they do that? Because they know full well that flight draws people to the game and wanted to capitalize on it. They did so successfully because very soon after they turned on flight in Legion there was a significant influx of players, both new and returning ones. I know this because I paid attention and saw that there were many more players to interact with after flight was turned on. Also because many of the people on my friends started playing again, and stopped playing after they achieved pathfinder part 1 in BfA.
For a game that is losing paying customers in the hundreds and perhaps thousands per day, it would just be good business to turn on a feature that would draw people to the game.
Since WoD there have been many unpopular changes to WoW that have driven off players, some temporarily and some permanently, clearly they can’t revert them all, but there are a couple of changes they can make that won’t draw too many resources away from other important issues: 1)a change to the attitudes of whoever it is at ActiBlizz that seems to think that the current policy where flight is concerned, is okay. 2) is the current attitude of giving the players less game for more money.
Both will consume minimal resource and increase the profitability of the game and increase the satisfaction of ActiBlizz’s WoW customers.
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The subs had already been dropping due to the reasons I stated (almost the same issues BfA is having)… By the time it was announced that flying would “not” be added, the game had already lost around 6 million players since the time of WoD’s launch.
It’s trolling because they are pushing for a reaction that is undoubtedly going to be negative. By definition, that is what it is to troll.
It might carry some weight if it was true… Sitting in Trade chat all night, flying will never be mentioned for the simple fact that the trolls are too busying talking politics and religion; topics which get a stronger reaction from people than flying ever will.
31 post later and Tenchu is still trying to deny flying himself.
My god, I guess trolls never quit.
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