Just Cancelled my preorder of SL

Complaints before - “there’s not a lot of socializing in the game anymore! There’s hardly any group content that’s worth it!

Complaints now - “ I don’t want to gain gear by grouping up in a dungeon! Group content is the worse!”

Make up your mind do you want group or solo?

This is an epic use of Wonka, the likes of which I’ve never seen posted. Brilliant. I will have to follow suit in this. It is definitely a little nonsense - which, I’m told, now and then is cherished by the wisest men

I think he meant organized group content as opposed to random groupings.

Door hitting you and all that.

We needed that money from the OP’s preorder to finish the prepatch.

its weird… conquest rewards are always less than emissary rewards.

that’s not encouraging to me.

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Agreed.

And more importantly, how does this even remotely affect someone playing arena/m+/raiding non stop - some solo player in mythic gear playing random bg’s and running lfr isnt going to affect anyone in any other form of content.

This is the downside to having any significant reward in bg’s - you get afkers and botters, who are there for the reward gains without the work. Its been an issue in every single release of bg’s since they were first introduced. Its almost as bad as players fighting in the miod/roads for no purpose other than getting kills.

As to how they can actually do this without someone finding a way to exploit it for gains i have zero idea.

This will be worse due to balancing issues with classes/specs not being designed anywhere near 1v1.

Why not a 10v10 rated team deathmatch - first to 30 kills wins, or a 10 min game timer (no dampening) with whatever team is in the lead wins - no draws. I see the obvious issues of 8 x the most op class that can 1 shot people all lined up, we get this in bg’s anyway with multiboxing.

I’ve contemplated it as well.

Just another person saying they are quitting when they will be front and center waiting for Shadowlands to go live on the 26th.

See you in the Maw!

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Citation needed. Mythic gear isn’t necessary. (at least in bfa atm) you just need the right corruptions
and the resistance to use it
and the right azerite traits,
and essences
and talents.
and a little skill
and a little strategy

Shoot, there is video evidence of people with less than 200k hp doing fine in arenas.

the game scaling players makes you think that with the right set up being under geared is a net gain. a down right advantage.

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Duelrena would be fun

Dangit, delay upon delay :unamused:

It’s really not, just get to 2.1k rating and you pretty much get 2 weekly chest worth of Mythic loot.

community is to toxic to care and blizzard doesn’t like pvp. Just wait for ashes of creation it will be so much better for us pvpers and we wont get these toxic pve players in our midst.

Every wow player is worth missing.

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They already gave you solo content that rewards high end gear loots in Horrific visions . This is a MMORPG , so it is needed to play with a group. I also hard to get a proper raiding because most of the guilds from my realm have different time setting compared with mine . Most raiding guild Raid times are set to my work time, so i can’t find a proper guild to do raiding. But i tried to play mythic + and got a decent gears in BFA. You can give a try to Mythic + if you want a nice gear even if you don’t wanna do raiding. I’m pretty sure Shadowlands would be much better than BFA because there can be no expansion worse than BFA. Since you played BFA , you shouldn’t let go of SL.

What I think the OP meant was that the game should evolve.

Imagine playing wow now without m+ in place it would be terrible - however that was the game years ago. Blizzard adds features to the game but most of them are bad and not very well thought out… just look at bfa. How will SL be any different?

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man they trashed ESO a year ago, it’s only progressively getting worse with the months.

That game has had so many more downs than it’s had ups.

Eso lacks any complexity to the game, you can literally have average gear and run people over. Gear isn’t THAT important in the game. It also has pretty bad PvE in comparison to WoW.

The PvP aspect of it, is broken currently due to the desyncs in damage.

A vast majority of players that i know, even some of the top end players that were class reps quit that game within this last year. I used to play ESO competitively and left it when every spec was a “tank”, and could heal to full.

Aside from the server’s being worse than WoW, it’s crafting has more value, i will say that. It’s sales/AH mechanic is better. But combat, PVE/PVP, and the rest, is completely bad. Especially with the removal of 1 vs X , 2 vs X , 3 vs X etc.

I remember last year in november/december, when the servers were bugged and RBG’s didn’t work at all. You spent almost 2-3 days trying to get into an RBg before they fixed it, and the few who got “lucky” were stuck in the RBG without any way to start the match.

ESO has had catastrophic events like that since it’s beta (which i played), and through it’s expansions.

Keep in mind, i started playing ESO 4 years ago up until last year, i hadn’t played WoW since wotlk at that point, which was years earlier.

I came back to WoW happier with the bare minimum, given ESO was so terrible.

Change the topic title to:

Slept On It - I’m Back

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They always come back.

At this rate it’s a rage quit then show back up the next day like nothing happened.