June 4th - PvP Q&A

[Holycow-uldaman]

Update:

Venruki interviewed Holinka.

Shadowlands PvP Discussion with Game Dev Holinka

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Another Update:

@Linxy

Shadowlands has seen tremendous participation in Arena with the number of unique players and total matches exceeding those seen in recent seasons. As some have noted, this level of participation has had some unintended effects at the very top of the ladder. The nature of our rating system means that the more people that participate, the more likely it is that the very best players in the world will reach extremely high matchmaking ratings. In this case, a number of players have reached the upper boundary of our rating system and as a result, they may achieve victories that don’t result in rating increases. Since the number of players capable of playing at this level is limited, if they choose not to participate, it becomes difficult for those players immediately below them to also gain rating.

We have two solutions to this problem, one of which is already in place and the other will take effect with weekly restarts on Tuesday.

First, over the past 7 years World of Warcraft has had a rating inflation system in place that increases the mean rating of competitors at a rate of 10 points per week (note: This is the rate of increase for clarity but the number is actually increasing with each second). This means that the number that all ratings – including the highest rating possible – are calibrated at increases by 10 points each week, so players that continue playing throughout the season have an advantage compared to those who stop when it comes to end of season rewards. Ultimately, if high end players choose not to play, their rating will be overcome by those who do.

Second, we are going to increase the upper bound of our matchmaking rating system with weekly restarts this week. This should mean that players at the top of the ladder should have less matches that reward no rating change.

We appreciate everyone letting us know about this issue and hope that the upcoming increase the matchmaking cap will improve the situation for the few players affected.

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Original Post:

Please try to be nice.

venruki

[Pxdx-tichondrius]

Noice. Excited to hear the answers, ready to be hurt again.

[Aristotlé-tichondrius]

Cool. I was meaning to post something asking what the odds would be we would get anything like the pie Q&A

[Tarzanrifki-frostmourne]

Im leveling a guardian druid. What are the best 3v3 comps for me. My healer one is necro. Leveling a new one for kyrian ability.

[Jfat-faerlina]

Q: Why do you think it is acceptable for games to regularly go 10-15 minutes into deep dampening, creating a boring meta for both the players and viewers. Why don’t you tune dampening to start earlier, ramp up faster, or create some sort of additional -%mana regeneration to healers to allow games to actually end.

A: Durr

Good talk.

[Fleshed-darkspear]

what is going to be done about the boosting problem, mmr deflation, less active ladder as tbc is stealing large chunks of retail arena playerbase

[Abombination-kurinnaxx]

Why can’t Retail copy a vastly superior product like TBC. Since TBC is so popular any chance we might see real PvP stats, or gearing similar to TBC. Maybe actual class design and talent trees again. What are the plans for the heart and soul of the PvP community which are BGs/WPvP. New BGs? Fix Epics? Separate balancing in PvP around BGs would be nice.

[Cutîepie-kelthuzad (Cutîepie)]

superior product is mop bud

[Rethumtv-tichondrius (Rethumtv)]

@Jfat-faerlina

Q: Why do you think it is acceptable for games to regularly go 10-15 minutes into deep dampening, creating a boring meta for both the players and viewers

Why don’t you ask the people who get “one-shot” by Ret every game what they think about dampening. Most of them have never seen it * sarcasm *

[Boombasta-shuhalo]

Sorry tank players aren’t allowed to ask questions!

[Debbyfrowner-thrall]

I thought Holinka quit . My timeline is off

[Bigbilly-illidan (Bigbilly)]

Why do I feel like this Q&A won’t change anything. Venruki just gonna list a bunch of problems Holinka already knows about while Holinka cosplays a concerned face. Meanwhile gear will still be locked behind rating, self healing will stay busted, glads will have more games qued below 2k mmr than above, etc.

Oh wait was I supposed to be excited? Nvm. Hell yeah! Holinka gonna save us yayyyy! They finally listening

[Rethumtv-tichondrius (Rethumtv)]

Any exposure it typically good exposure. But one man is not responsible for making every change possible, nor will he have the control to do so if he wanted to. We already learned that from Chris Kal during his “Why I Left Blizzard” video.

On the other side though it’s impossible to make everyone happy. Someone will always feel left out at the end of the day

[Gotheelsx-darkspear]

@Jfat-faerlina

Why do you think it is acceptable for games to regularly go 10-15 minutes into deep dampening

I’d prefer the game to be designed around matches lasting 10-15 minutes, as opposed to 5 minutes or so. I think the majority of players would agree with that

[Jfat-faerlina]

Eh Retail is dying extremely fast so idk how accurate that statement is. I’ve watched AWC streams quite a bit this expansion and chat is filled with nothing but “zzz dampening boring game” etc when games go 10+ minutes.

It makes every button you press feels like it does nothing. Don’t really care though as I have TBC Arena to hold me over until WoTLK Classic. Maybe Retail arena meta will be fun by then but I’m not counting on it.

[Efxsp-sargeras]

Say what now?

[Trash-tichondrius-811605]

@Gotheelsx-darkspear

I’d prefer the game to be designed around matches lasting 10-15 minutes, as opposed to 5 minutes or so. I think the majority of players would agree with that

LOL this is the biggest bait i’ve ever seen

[Gotheelsx-darkspear]

@Jfat-faerlina

Eh Retail is dying extremely fast so idk how accurate that statement is

I mean for your average arena player, how many matches are going 15 minutes long into damp? Not many at all. If you que games from like 1.4-2k, someone is definitely dying way before they are supposed to, and deservedly so. People in the lower brackets aren’t as experienced with rotating cool downs

@Jfat-faerlina

It makes every button you press feels like it does nothing

At least you can live long enough to press your buttons. If games were designed to last 5-6 minutes, it’d be pretty boring only being able to use 2/3 min cds once or twice a game

[Dillon-sargeras (Dillon)]

I’ve been fiending wotlk so hard but oh man this post is making me need it more than ever

[Motarro-tichondrius]

expect the worst and hope for the best lads

we dont want to set ourselves up for immeasurable disappointment