June 1st 2021 EULA update

I think what happened is that our non-EULA-reading friend here was randomly disconnected shortly after Blizzard pushed the EULA update out. Had they not DC’ed, they would have been prompted to sign it the next time they logged in.

Pyromor is just irritated that the EULA pop-up represented an incredibly minor (and brief) inconvenience while they were trying to log back in.

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I know it is strange but that’s like most everything i go through. :worried:

My wife told me to hurry up because I read every page of my mortgage as it was presented to me.

The title officer was like no I wish more would do that instead of sign blindly.

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I guess you were looking for the clause that says if you miss a payment they take your first born child. First borns get kinda miffed if they have to go live at the mortgage company. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I specifically asked where it was so I could make sure I acknowledged it.

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I also read it in full. I’m sure a lot of people sign documents blindly, but that’s on them.

I know legalese puts off a lot of people. I totally get it. Many legal documents can be hard to understand. I’ve had documents where I’ve reread multiple times and still had trouble following.

Blizzard’s EULA is pretty straightforward and understandable. It’s well-formatted and while exacting, written to be as clear as possible. They aren’t hiding things in it because Blizzard really wants you to understand what you’re agreeing to.

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I read legal documents when they’re likely to have an impact on my life in some way. Leasing or buying a house or car, yes. Banking documents, yes. Medical waivers and agreements, yes.

Computer software EULAs … no, thanks. Especially gaming EULAs.

I don’t break rules, I don’t toe lines, I don’t skirt the border of what is deemed acceptable. I pay with methods that give me consumer security.

It’s not that I can’t read the EULA (obviously), it’s that I personally find reading computer software EULAs a complete waste of time. I’d rather put my spare reading time into whatever book I am working on.

And I do take on that personal responsibility. If I end up painted into a corner because I didn’t read the EULA, so be it. Given my description of my gaming activity above, I don’t see how that could ever be, but if I did find myself out fifteen bucks or on an account vacation or whatever, then I can deal with that.

I am certainly not paranoid about finding section nine, subsection eight, paragraph eleven, sentence six where some EULA says that I must provide samples of my DNA if I want to do end-game content. EULAs aren’t out to get me.

99% of players can virtually ignore the EULA and just play. It’s the envelope-pushers that need to care.

Real-life correlation: I have never read the laws governing my city, state or country in their entirety. Yet, I have no problem with “the law.” Been on this planet going on 50 years and never ran afoul of it, despite being completely ignorant of the specific wording of the laws.

Same difference in my book. Nothing at all against the folks that read either EULAs or laws in their entirety; I read the back of shampoo bottles, cereal boxes, chemicals and other consumer labels when I am bored. More power to ya. It’s just not my thing, as I have no reason to fear or even worry slightly about “the rules.”

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If you don’t read the rules, how do you know you’re not breaking them? How do you even know what the rules are?

Real-life correlation: I still read my city’s bylaws and ordinances to make sure I wasn’t violating any noise ordinances by mowing my yard at 7:00am on a Sunday. The point is you can’t possibly know if you’re following the rules/laws unless you know what the rules/laws are.

I don’t know what to tell ya. As I said, I don’t run afoul of the law. If I were to do something non-standard, say like, mowing my yard at 7am, I would check that specific code to make sure I’m compliant (as I have - there are no set hours for noise in Los Angeles, you can report disturbances at any hour of the day.) Though, this was me checking on what hour a noisy party “had to end”.

I will not read the entire county code, though.

I’d venture a guess that most people here haven’t read their county vehicle code, yet they still drive, and the vast majority manages to drive without breaking laws.

So, I’d have to disagree. I am confident that I am not breaking any law in my day-to-day life without having to reference civil or criminal code.

But, you have your way of doing things, and I have mine. As I said for you doing you:

Personally, I neither see nor feel a need to read software EULAs and county vehicle codes. EULAs have been flashing in front of my eyes for thirty years, on everything from games to operating systems to audio and video editing software; I’ve never read one in it’s entirety, and I’ve never felt anywhere near needing to reference one for some issue.

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Thanks a bunch for the Cliff Notes version!

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This was a nice bit of information. Thanks.

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