Pretty sure she killed Zandalari when she helped sack their capital. I mean, there were bodies littering the streets and docks.
Maybe her Blood Elf headcount is much shorter, but I refuse to acknowledge any claim that Jaina has never shed blood during the entirety of World of Warcraft.
A minute and a half after a Purge of Dalaran survivor called her a murderer Jaina commiserated with Thrall about the blood on her hands. Much as her fans plug their ears and chant her innocence, she knows.
To clarify, my opinion is that Jaina is guilty of the purge, even if she personally killed any blood elf or not, and to me it is a story beat that makes sense in her character arc. Iâm just pointing out what the writing has been trying to do.
Well, that was open warfare, not pretty, but, they were enemies. And Iâm sure the siege of dazarâalor only had military casualties, or majorly them.
That doesnt mean literal. In the same vein that Thrall is not the one to âspill bloodâ as it were for Garroshâs action.
Havenât you directly blamed Thrall for Garroshâs actions in the past because of putting him in the warchief position in the first place?
Yes I do blame him for it. But considering we are also working with him I find this argument moot. If we have to work with Thrall, you guys have to work with Jaina. And we all grit our teeth because right now all of us will die if we dont deal with Xal first.
And in this same vein of saying Jaina forgave herself. Apparent Thrall did the same and both say as much to comfort Alleria.
Yet you celebrated the Chronicles blurb about Dalaran because you wanted Jaina to be blameless. You have a strange idea of tit-for-tat storytelling.
âWell you gottaâ is not exactly the most compelling reason to immerse in a story.
I mean it is pretty literal in Jainaâs case considering she opened the purge with five killings and spent its remainder blasting âdisplaced civiliansâ with fireballs.
Yes I consider Jaina blameless. And while I dont consider Thrall blameless(if for no other reason than because this whole mess started because of him) it would still be a moot point because the story at least considers him blameless. You and anyone else are free to think Jaina is the villain. But as far as the story is concerned neither Jaina or Thrall will face any consequences for it and the story has effectively wiped their hands clean of it.
And yet this is what we have. You can complain to the ether for as long as you want but from what we have seen of the story we are not likely going to see anything further from it. Like it or not both Thrall and Jaina are being portrayed as part of the hero team here.
If Jaina isnât to blame, than neither is Thrall. This weird tit-for-tat going on is beyond exhausting. Itâs been literal years since the purge.
No one died during the Dalaran purge. Thatâs why the Blood Elf leaders didnât care about her making them leave and have never tried to hold them accountable. It was a violent insurrection with many injuries but no causalities.
If Blizzard says otherwise, itâs bad writing.
Thereâs a quest where you kill Blood Elves in the Purge.
She actually gets confronted about releasing the prisoners, which she eventually did.
They were probably just knocked out.
If they were knocked out, the quest would have explicitly had them be knocked out; not killed.
Not necessarily. Oversights happen, or some things arenât considered super important.
See also: the original Illidan vs Arthas cinematic.
Well, to be fair, blizz has done a terrible job of clarifying the actual event too. They just keep adding MORE to convulted event, without actually outright stating which version is the correct one.
She killed people in the purge, but also somehow didnât kill people, but was also throwing fireballs at said people.
Sewer Cleaning, Unfair Trade, Nowhere to Hide, and Cashing Out all literally use the word âslayâ in its quest text.
I never said she did.
She assisted in their holding of the bell itself. Whether you think thatâs fine is inconsequential, because thereâs no material difference between assisting one faction in holding a weapon away from the other and assisting the other with acquiring the bell from the other.
Because Blizzard was done with her âbad phaseâ and Alliance characters just skate past consequences.
Did Jaina commit genocide? No. Did she commit ethnic cleansing? Yes.
Whether you think she wanted to expel all the Horde races (and yes, people were targeted based on what race they were), or imprison them, that is ethnic cleansing. (And note, in some of the quests you explicitly prevent people from leaving.)
This gets spiced up with quest where the Alliance character kills someone because they wanted to ge their money out of the bank or you kill shop keepers because they wonât go along quietly. (And yes, people have a right to resist crimes like ethnic cleansing. And no, orders to carry it out are not legitimate.). Now these are done by Vareesa, who explicit lays responsibility at Jainaâs feet. (Though Vanessa skates also). In any case Jaina doesnât nothing about what Vareesa.