I haven’t “liked” doing M+ since Legion. There’s a lot of reasons really:
Keys could deplete back then, it wasn’t a complete hamster wheel.
Could change spec and gear in the key.
Titanforging existed so when you did low keys your time wasn’t completely wasted. Low keys are dead now. (Now that we have Delves, you might as well just put Titanforging back)
The dungeon design was better, not punishing and some of them were short, like 22 minutes max.
Loot actually dropped.
They were 1 shots at a high level, so you didn’t have streamers doing +30 keys.
The dungeons were kept simple and light on mechanics for the most part, the affixes were kept punishing.
The floor was coherently laid out, the ceiling was clearly visible and everything was open for everyone.
Now they’ve flipped #7. Now they make the dungeons completely insane, miniature raids, everything is a healthsponge, everything casts something, everything casts nonstop, everything spams crap all over the floor, but hey, at least affixes are sort of gone, amirite?
Dungeons now take like 35 minutes if you’re lucky. That’s too crazy by its self.
And right after that you started your own group so you wouldn’t get declined 41 times? If keys were dead then so many players wouldn’t try getting into groups. Players are just scared to start their own group.
I don’t think it’s this. I think it’s that literally no one and I mean no one who plays video games wants to look at that LFG window waiting for requests, literally no one in existence wants to.
Its quite commical. I know, and have spoken to a few highly skilled 1% m+ players and they laugh at the m+ forum complaints. They also love delves, and know the gear really isn’t an issue.
This is like a niche group that wants everything to cater to them. Has poor community relations, poor social skills, some pathological behavoir, and wants to imprison the community into playing their prefered content. Only to turn around and brag about the gating they in turn complain about themselevs now. You cant make this stuff up.
Im also glad its over for those that felt stuck participating with them.
I think the people who still love mythics are still doing just fine and enjoying this expansion, but its become clear there is a really toxic portion of that community that is probably best left rotting away, and ignored.
These were the people told to go away from M+ and git gud for the last decade. They weren’t going to be applying to your groups with or without delves. This just gives them something else to do while they aren’t applying for your groups.
So what we’re saying is that all of this whining about delves killing M+ isn’t even based partially in reality?
I’m lucky to have a tank main friend, but man Blizzard really needs to do something because when he isn’t on I can’t even get into a +6 even though I have over 2k io and 611 iLvl. Meanwhile I swap to tank and get accepted into any key I want because there’s so few tanks people will accept anyone at this point just so they can play the damn game.
Yep. I used to have so many things to do on my Tanks and Everytime they simplified one I jumped to one that had more interaction, but now it’s just zzzZzZzzzzz if there is one thing FFXIV does better class wise (and I dislike a lot of their class designs) it’s tanks. I wish WoW devs would look at how “complex” XIV tanks are and work some of that into their design.
Just… WoW devs ignore their melee dps design. Shudders