This explains what they do. Doesn’t say they are supposed to shill for Blizzard.
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It means nothing. Blizz just don’t want to talk us “regular” members.
“Hate Speech” in the legal sense is very specific, unfortunately I am concerned that the term will be interpreted to mean “Speech I personally Hate.” That’s what the mods do on the forums so why would I think the in game mods will be different?
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Some of the regulars here are quite “unstable”, I wouldn’t want to listen to them either.
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Agree.
I have so many of them blocked LOL
It’s a good reason why the devs stopped posting long ago, and the CMs shy away from the place. Gather enough rats in one place, they start eating each other.
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What context is that? I understand Blizzard’s own internal issues but I’m not sure I understand this part.
Exactly. So now instead of ToS and EULA ‘contracts’ the had to add some Thomas Hobbes into the mix. Wish we could have just stuck to the John Locke agreement…
It seems some fear is more important than others depending on how you think.
Emotional reasoning, I listened to you and Thunderstorm about CC and Squelching and came to an agreement. Why would I wish you the best and say I do not even dislike you if I am being emotional?
Believe it or not people can have different perspectives and come to different conclusions without hating each other.
Fair enough. Still disagree with how she presented Koji’s position but it does not carry the weight of representing Blizzard.
Are we happy now? We will disagree about what is dismissive and whether my position on whether real life experiences frame how people see the contract is a thing. Agreed?
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Yeah, I don’t believe your interpretation is factual. You’ll need to cite some supporting information. I don’t believe anyone on the forums (or probably almost anywhere) had been sanctioned for hate speech that was actually "speech I personally hate.
However, hate speech isn’t the only thing not allowed on the forums, so I’m sure the mods on the forums have actioned people for many of these other things. That doesn’t mean they were classified as hate speech, and again, I find your statement to be not credible.
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Either way, they’re ALL “contracts”, that we’re all agreeing to. Per your post, Blizz could’ve held us “legally” accountable, before this “Social Contract”.
Nothing has really changed.
And, I just want to shake those freaking out about this because nothing has changed.
No, logical reasoning. You’ve assumed multiple things to be true and were wrong about it. Because you don’t like how I’m saying things, you’re not actually listening to what I’m telling you.
And, I’ve listened to you and explained ad nauseum what the facts are because you keep getting it wrong due to your emotional state.
I do understand that, and I don’t hate you. I may be frustrated, but I don’t hate you. You would know if I did 'cause I usually tell the posters that I don’t wish to engage with any longer, that I’m blocking them. But, I haven’t done with you because I don’t think you’re arguing for the sake of arguing. I just think you’re misinformed (which is not an insult 'cause there’s proof of you getting things wrong), and I’m trying to inform you.
Exactly.
Oh goodness 
For the millionth time, this “contract” changes NOTHING. Doesn’t matter how we “feel” about it. I find the “contract” pointless, but that’s just me. IK for a fact it changes absolutely nothing. That’s what both Mirasol and I keep trying to tell everybody. Well, those freaking out about it.
This is why I end up repeating myself because you are not listening. It’s not how you perceive it; it is how others perceive it. You do not want to listen.
My whole entire point is to inform how people perceive the contract. Mirasol misrepresented that. That is all. I do not think you can steelman my position.
You are telling me that people in my position should have raised concerns when Squelching became an issue, CC does not mean moderator and Mirasol should not be held accountable as such and there is no reason for faux outrage since the social contract is no different than ToS or EULA. Is this correct?
We’ll see if you can steelman my position.
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Well I could provide that for you but it’s against the forum rules to discuss actions that were taken against you by a moderator. Bit I’m sure you can remember the time when Pelagos was hailed as the first “Trans” character and the forums were nuts for a bit. The mods were pretty heavy handed squishing any post that differed from the Pro-LGBTQ line of thinking.
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It’s irrelevant. If they are made at me then I am the aggrieved party, not you. Not the 100 people standing on the sidelines with torches and pitchforks. I would say that certainly you have the prerogative of challenging the person you percieve to be in the wrong? That’s your right if you feel the need to become involved. That’s the Good Samaritan Principle.
The problem with you taking offense over something said to me and forcing the issue after I’ve forgiven it is that you are forcing me to adopt the role of victim after I’ve decided it’s not worth it. All because you have convinced yourself that by witnessing the exchange that you have victimhood, which you do not. You are a bystander. And when you get involved, you become The Mob.
/facepalm
self-con·tra·dict·ing
[ˌselfˌkäntrəˈdiktiNG]
ADJECTIVE
- characterized by inconsistency between aspects or parts of a whole:
“the document is somewhat self-contradicting”
We can agree to disagree. I believe I’ve made enough of a case that there is a problem not only with the “Social Contract” but also with the thinking behind it. I don’t need to have the very last word.
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Lol, zoned into this thread only to find the OP’s post “reported”, the irony 
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I think you have that backwards but continue.
It doesn’t matter how any of us perceive it.
No, that would be you and others like you. Mirasol and I are trying to calm the waters but people like you keep attacking us, for it because people like you are more invested on your (general “your”) own intepretation instead of hearing what’s actually going on.
What do you think Mirasol and I are trying to do?
No, she didn’t. You (specifically) think she did, and I’m telling you, she didn’t. Considering how often you’ve been wrong about things…you’re probably wrong about this, too.
Like I said, considering how often you’ve been wrong about things…I think you need to take a step back and get your facts straight before chiming in and spreading false information.
That and to have never have backed down. Because the fight against “censorship” is a joke. Those seriously concerned about “censorship” and/or “compelled speech” wouldn’t accept the Squelch and would continue to fight against it but that didn’t happen. It became “old news”, and the general populace forgot that it existed but now want to cry, again about this “Social Contract”, when IK for a fact it’s a lie that doesn’t hold any water. 'Cause you’ll (general “you”) forget all about it, just like with the Squelch that was here, before the “Social Contract” arrived. I do not believe the sob stories of “muh free speech” nor “compelled speech”, when these same folks didn’t do diddly squat to remove the Squelch, that’s been in place. This is why I keep saying “nothing has changed” 'cause it hasn’t.
This is all just a fad and a trend that the “cool kids” are doing but then hop on the next big thing, when this “Social Contract” becomes “old news”. I don’t take it, seriously and think it’s one big joke.
And, that this “Social Contract” will become “old news”, just like what happened with the “Squelch”. Nobody did anything to remove it. It’s still, here.
And, if you still want to argue about it, afterwards, guess I’ll have to increase my blocked list count.
IDK how much clearer I can explain than what I already have.
I am glad we agree that I have been listening and have effectively steelmanned your position. How can I repeat back your position if I have not been listening?
Block me then. You have not steelmanned my position, have not been listening so this discussion is pointless.
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they haven’t fully opened it up yet so success/failure rating is premature.
No, that would be you and others like you.
Nobody did anything to remove the Squelch, and I doubt any of you will stick around to reverse this contract. You’ll forget all about it, just like with the Squelch.
Nothing will change.
Blocking you, now 'cause you refuse to listen. Have a good one.
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agreed as Disney found out losing billions in a week.
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