What? Again did you read the blue post? What Esfand ran into isn’t anything to do with the layering exploit that people are getting banned for.
Even if it was the same bug, it wasn’t intentional, they ran into the bug and contacted blizzard. I’m sure there are many others who had the same situation.
The people getting banned were doing it intentionally, running the exploit 10, 20, 30 times.
Seems facts don’t matter and hating streamers is top priority
I am sorry you are not smart at all and try to use basic relativism to punish someone whom appointed a crime was happening.
You shoudln’t get 60 tbh
Nor you should play whit anyone at any given time.
Makes people waste time.
Why are people replying to this with their non classic characters, when this is a classic topic? You guys afraid to show your mains on classic?
If they were really concerned with doing it right, they would’ve just called off the raid. Instead, they needed Big Daddy Blizz to cover for them by saying it was a known bug and they had their blessing. You’ll buy anything.
You should blame Blizzard, There is no enforcement of what avatar we post under.
I didn’t say ban Esfand, I do think a removal of loot is a good option though.
Sorry I upset you by calling out your streamer daddy though. :[
I’m just right. It’s ok. You can still man crush on your favorite streamer.
TheyGM coulda wiped out the extra bosses and trash NP, at least in vanilla that’s what would have happened to maintain the integrity of the game and all.
Actually no, cascading instances was a very real thing in Vanilla and raid lockout theft caused guildwide bannings.
This “the instance reset and nobody knew it” bug never existed in Vanilla, I’ve never heard of this happening ever.
That distinction truly doesn’t matter.
Running dungeons with 10 players instead of 5 is playing fully within the confines of the game’s ruleset.
This is why I mentioned in my response to Lore that it’s important to clarify that methodology is as, if not more, important than purely intent. Given the rest of his post, their stance supports that.
The “bug” wasn’t a bug, it was a very clear and easy way to manipulate raid instances. I know because we had our lockout stolen and the guild received a day ban for it.
You must have misunderstood, GM did intervene in the world in Vanilla, and had something like that happened in Vanilla, appropriate action would have been taken, people wouldn’t just have been allowed to get extra loot. The problem would have been corrected, by removing the extra bosses. (Had it happened in Vanilla and GM notified)
Ah yes, I agree and you’re right.
Seems you don’t care about the situation at all and just want to dislike streamers
Got it.
Keep making excuses for the marketing ploy known as streaming.
Blizzard: layering in classic guys!!!
Experienced players: #nochanges, it will be abused
Blizzard: no
beta players: we are exploiting it :DDDD
Blizzard: we will fix it
second week on classic: lol im rich
Blizzard: Everything is working as intended ^.^
Just them? Or everyone?
Trying to cut through bias…
In either event, I support Blizzard’s attempts to sort it out.
Despite a strong TOS, I suspect Blizzard doesn’t want to implicate people who had no actual intent of cheating.
In your world, we would probably run out of jail cells and throw out defense attorneys, too.
yet you can hear a whole bunch of people in the background of esfands stream basically saying dont say anything lets just loot this all. how many of those guild members went on to exploit after specially after basically getting a go ahead. Can we get a list of character names and the guild they were in that got banned. i’m curious to see who this all basically links back to cause i’m betting a good chunk of layering exploits were found in your “private” streamer beta and kept quiet till after release so it could be abused.
He did not intentionally try to exploit bugs. He brought to light the bug to blizzard. You do not punish the good guys who let you know an issue exists. You punish the people who kept that knowledge from you so they could exploit it and benefit.