It's called progression

Blizzard 100% need to do more to make sure every spec can do Delves properly.

Whether that be tuning them depending on the spec or giving specs that lack as many tools extra tools they can use to help level the playing field. Delves definitely need a lot of work.

But they also 100% are not supposed to be easy content. If that doesn’t suit you, that’s cool and perfectly understandable.

But WoW has plenty of chill content that’s easy. What WoW doesn’t have is challenging content that casual players who don’t have the time to grind things like M+ can work away at in their own time.

That’s what Delves are meant to provide.

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Not in Heroic you don’t. Except maybe on the last few bosses. I did 1 single raid yesterday for 3 hours and we cleared all of Normal and the first 3 on Heroic. We one shot everything except Heroic Bloodbound Horror.

Right, that’s why it’s called progression as the OP implied.

I didn’t just jump straight in and knock it all out. I farmed heroics when they opened and geared up that way, improving my gear via valorstones. When delves and m0 came out, I increased my ilvl with those means and have found t8 delves to be a satisfying and challenging experience that I can do solo.

Because I progressed.

Welcome to MMO 101

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the way the damage is scaled right now even if I was in 710 gear some of the mobs in t8 would oneshot my aug evoker,. welcome to basic math 101.

todays lesson., when the boss hits for 4 milliuon health and you have just above 4 million health you die instantly.

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Its 2024. Aint no one got time for old man slow progression. Its time to get updated.

So don’t stand in one shot, huge telegraphed attacks.

I’m not super sure what you guys expect when you stand in bad.

This means you aren’t geared enough for the tier that you’re doing btw.

It’s specifically a you problem.

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What level of Delves are people getting hit for that hard. I did a few solo 8’s last night on this toon and my Blood DK and never had an avoidable attack that one shot me.

They seem tuned correctly for solo based on the rewards. At least for Windwalker and Blood.

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Simply at the reset i did only delve 7 till yesterday now im delve 8 a little rocky but doable the more i got upgrade the more i will clear them with ease.

Delve 7 give 597 1/8 vault reward is 610.
Delve 8 give 603 4/8 vault rewarf is 616.

Delve 7 require 587+
Delve 8 require 600+

People focus only on delve 8 only because that what they been told to do and ignore the rest.
If you struggle on 8 do a 7 insteads get gear upgrade it and and when ur higher ilvl go for 8 rinse and repeat.
Its the first damn week of the season and people expect to be fully decked out of 616 ilvl after they 4 delve a day.

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its 2024, gimme loot

I;ve yet to see a single telegraphed attack outside bosses. or webspinner stuff. Stuff I can interrupt, sure, telegraphs that do damage? nah. Its the untelegraphed things like webshots that hits for an 8th of my health even when I’m doing a tier 5 delve at 15 ilvl above recommended.

But keep telling yourself whatever you want guy, you already said you;re abandoning delves next week so why do you care so much about proving yourself super-competent at a game type you dont even like enough to keep doing when it no longer gives you relevant gear

There are telegraphs from certain trash mobs that will one shot you on higher levels.

Several things are wrong with this statement.

The first, and most obvious is that you’re not being hit for 4 million hp on a melee swing from a boss. So stop with the actual dishonesty.

The second, I do like Delves. However, their usefulness to me as a gear source ends Tuesday. I’ll use them if I level an alt (I probably won’t have time for this, I never do.) If there is some interesting cosmetic or pet attached to them, I’ll swing back by.

The third; and the absolute most important-

You’re misrepresenting not only my words but your own experiences within delves. Your feedback is bad because you’re not being truthful. You’re mad at me because you aren’t geared enough for what you’re trying to do, and in all likelihood; not good enough either.

The good news is that you can get gear and you can improve your gameplay. It’s not the game’s fault you’re having a hard time. Tier 8 delves are an easily attainable goal by pretty much anyone who has their monitor turned on.

Also I noticed this. So either you’re being hit for four million hp, or you’re being hit for an 8th of your hp (which isn’t even an issue and I have no idea why you would be upset about taking damage from an enemy in a combat based game.)

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Really hilarious all the death knights think every class can do what they can. Even Towlliee said death knights are being ridiculous about saying how they can do it and other people shouldn’t be struggling. I’m paraphrasing he didn’t say it that nicely.

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This sounds like an elitist post where they believe its not as hard as it is ignoring clear problems while thinking it should be a bash your head against a wall progression content. How about something be purely fun for once.

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I didn’t assume people can do it because I can, I assume people can do it because others have and used the tools I mentioned and in the end I said it was especially easier if your a death knight. Drop the hate, and stop sipping streamer bait.

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Because the devs sold it as solo content. Also, Mage Towers were cosmetic reward only.

Tell that to one tiny rat in Waterworks requiring 500k hps to out heal, with a few more hitting Bran. If they drop aggro from him because of healer threat then we are in quite a large mess and there is nothing you can really do about it.

Things hit too hard, and depending on role/spec they also have too much health. Disc priest does not even have an interrupt, think about just how disgusting that can get.

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you just have to git gud

Yea. I don’t have any sympathy for people who go into delves with unreasonable set ups. Go ahead and go in there as a healer. You have a dps spec available to you. It makes no sense at all to make things harder than they have to be, then to come here and complain about it.

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There is nothing unreasonable about going in there as a healer, it was sold as a solo progression path and all 3 roles progress in this game.

My complaint about the state of delves for a healer spec is completely valid, just as valid as any tank or dps complaining.

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then lets put the progression back in raiding, and have people still killing the first three bosses on normal mode for the first 3-4 weeks of the tier, all in the name of “progression” because advancing too quickly is clearly abnormal.

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