It's called progression

So tell them to chill lol? Even pugs would be fine - but I understand

when you raid every piece of gear is at least the right ilvl, can be funneled to you if the raid team is organized like that, and you get like 15 pulls at ye olde gear slot machine instead of getting one 616 piece every week that might be relevant

Yes there. There is everything unreasonable about going in there as a healer if you have access to a dps spec. It wasn’t sold as a solo progression path by going in as whatever spec you feel like playing without difficulty.

That being said, tier 8’s are solo for healers. Your gear isn’t up to par, and you’re not playing well if you can’t do it. The good news.

You can always swap to a dps spec for it.

No, it isn’t. You’re making the decision to make this harder on yourself than it needs to be. Blizzard doesn’t need to cater to your stubbornness.

And as a hunter you can walk through an 11 with ease. Talk about hypocrisy.

If you are limited on lives that impact the end reward, it’s not the kind of progression you are talking about. In heroic raids, progression is about learning, adapting, and overcoming, but there isn’t an arbitrary cap on attempts that punishes players beyond repair. The wipes in raids help the team improve, and over time, you gradually clear more bosses as your skill and coordination increase.

However, if your delve run gets cut short due to limited lives, it removes that iterative learning experience, since you’re often forced to restart without any tangible progress. This isn’t a fair comparison to heroic raid progression, where players are encouraged to continue learning through trial and error without worrying about a life limit that can undercut their efforts to adapt.

Also, not everyone has access to the same level of consumables in solo content. If delves are designed to parallel raid progression, then they should focus on mechanical mastery, not on attrition through life limits. That’s where the frustration is likely coming from.

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That’s exactly how raid bosses work. A delve is akin to a single raid encounter. You reach the fail state you start from the beginning.

It’s like once we get to p2 ansurek and wipe we all spawn back on the platform with the boss at 50%.

It very much is that.

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No.
PvP is deterministic.

no, its more like, you lose to ansurek 5 times and all the trash respawns on the way to her and you have to reclear all the way back to the platform after rezoning into the instance.

also not to be that person but a lot of bosses in ff14 in serious raid content do stay in phase 2 once you’ve managed to clear the door boss

I was cleating +8 delves , solo, with ilvl 570. I am using enchants, foods, oils, gems, and a proper talent spec, as well as knowing how to play my class. When / what to interrupt, how to CC.

For anyone not sure what to do, I highly suggest visiting IcyVeins website.

k. whats their advice for disc priest doing interrupts.

Myself I would use the petrifying scream talent on them. Or fade on pull so brann takes all the heat. You can also use dominate mind. Correct me if I am wrong. i haven’t played anything other than shadow priest since legion.

Could it be you’re trying to do a tier you’re not geared for?

It would be like trying to do keys, in 450 gear, it doesn’t end well.

Except you can skip all the trash in the raid and even be summoned straight to the boss and it doesn’t affect your chances or eligibility for loot. The encounter is the boss, the encounter is the delve. If you fail the encounter resets.

Also FF checkpoint / door bosses are usually because the fight is a “greatest hits” of multiple previous bosses and the encounter itself would otherwise be upwards of 20 minutes.

And how is that fun? It sounds like crap to me. Who would want to do that? This is a video game, not a marathon or job interview.

Brann can tank melees with fade but they changed it recently so casted spells can only target the player, even if brann has aggro.

Besides that, dominate mind is EXTREMELY good in high end delves as caster bolts do as much damage to other mobs / bosses as they would do to you. Which is a lot.

However none of this really helps with zekvir. ? Is doable but ?? Is very much not.

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Well it hasn’t been many people’s experience either, some have just gone in and been able to do it with a bit of patience / mechanical understanding regardless of class. You learn and get better / gradually your gear improves to where you can do something you couldn’t do before, that’s what progression is.

If content was designed so it took everyone only 1-2 tries it would be mind numbingly boring.

Like mythic dungeons!

Sounds like they are going to do tweaks and balances as time goes on. I mean that Zekvir guy is meant to be the end all be all for season 1 delves right? Not sure. Haven’t tried him. I am guessing they want people to be close to max gear, with all the bells and whistles. Myself, if a spec sucks for delves, I just swap to one that works the best. Doesn’t bother me :slight_smile:

I think it’s also important to remember the timeline for S1 delves is completely out of whack due to pre season. People who’ve hoarded keys knowing this was coming have been able to do 20 bountiful delves already this week, with 8 more coming.

We’ve done roughly a month and a Half’s worth of progression in a week.

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