Isn’t it odd the Torghast timer isn’t explained

I’m not using hyperbole at all. I wish I was. The VIP forums are real. Look it up.
The blacked out map in Torghast is real.
I wish i was making up everything I said. I truly do. I love WoW and FFXIV both.
WoW is littered with toxic design and a huge lack of communication and blatant antagonistic behaviour from the devs. Swifty gets permanently canceled from one random accusation and yet Method/Echo/every-other-spinoff gets to compete in WoW events?
This game is just turning into a cesspool.

They literally admitted that making everything a speedrun was bad, and then they do a 180 and say “speed is a measure of mastery” …REALLY? You think a master tradesman is only as good as the speed at which he makes his goods? Honestly? The WoW devs are so full of it I can’t let people just openly shill this bs anymore.

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You don’t need speed, you could take an eternity, get zero points on time and you could still make up for it with Empowered bonus.

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If i did, then i did not even notice it because i ran it as a prot warrior, killed everything, and looted everything and it took me like 10min a floor and i still got 4 stars.

I got the re-enforcment torment, so i dont know if that counts as killing 2 elites?

Prove it.
The empowered bonus is nothing compared to the time score.
You are so full of it.
This is about rewarding turbo-nerds because thats where all the focus is now. Getting Mythic+ and raiding to be as good as the 0.001% tell them they need it to be. They don’t monitor these forums, they just punish anyone who breaks the rules here. Has nothing to do with feedback.

Lore doesn’t do anything with the community anymore he just reads a script in his apartment to voice the new survival guide videos on youtube that immediately get downvoted.

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Fine, this is an older run. 21 points on Empowerment vs 15 on Time.

https://www.reddit.com/user/Vicente810/comments/odzzi6/empowerment_vs_time/

A whole twice, really. That’s rough

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The major beef i have with the system is that a person who’s accustomed to clearing all floors solo at their own pace could now be indefinitely stuck and not unlock higher floors because they’re not killing everything “properly”, i think that’s crap. Faster runs that tick off all of the appropriate boxes (boxes that aren’t even shown to you in game) should reward higher levels of currency but a full clear with no deaths should still allow you access to higher floors regardless.

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Been like this since BFA. I feel they just gave up. I haven’t been able to say " they care" since Legion.

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Preach. I dropped Torghast. The scoring system blows chunks.

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Why everyone ignores the Bonus Objectives??? I don’t get it.

Timer means nothing. I got 197 points taking between 9 and 13 minutes per floor. Only 8 points for time.

Main trick is dont die and complete everything.
Spend you TK on 2 points of blessings , 1 in reduce torment, and 1 in extend empowered.
Use empowered as often as you can .

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I even got 5 stars without using empowered at all and taking more than 30 minutes.

I “ignored” nothing TWICE. And I got 3 stars twice. You are stuck with this idea that we are just all idiots and ignoring blatantly obvious stuff to do. We Are not. We still fail because the devs are either creating toxic enivironments/gameplay or they are intentionally catering to turbo nerds to make us look toxic for not being on the turbo nerds level.

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…I am done discussing with you to be honest…

I just did a layer 8 on my vulpera hunter , died once and still got 4 stars and didn’t make time .

First death doesn’t counts if you have one of Venari’s upgrades.

shame you didn’t get an invite to the VIP forums where your voice could actually be heard.

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Aja, I don’t really care about these VIP forums that might not even be real.

No upgrades . I just got enough of everything I needed to get 4 stars and I finished at 95 %

Ok, you should get that upgrade though, it’s cheap and account-wide.