Is There Concrete Evidence That Light And Void Actually Causes Someone To Die In An Explosion Of Fel?

As much as I generally overall agree with this, the fact is there is a giant glaring hole.

Forsaken were humans who died and were raised again and they retain the same skills and knowledge. It’s why humans and forsaken could be the same classes EXCEPT paladins. You died as a human mage? You came back as a forsaken mage and one of the initial explanations, as I recall, was that paladins were immune to the plague itself (thus none died and were raised as forsaken) and/or that the way paladins interact with the light is fundamentally different than priests and trying to channel the light in “their” way was literally impossible.

So correct yes that an undead can’t learn to just be a paladin…the fact is they already are what they were before they died. This is even further reinforced that forsaken not only can’t reproduce but cease aging. There aren’t just undead children “growing up and learning to be X”.

This is why I think there is going to be a massive overhaul with Calia. I think she is going to pave the way for the forsaken to regain their canon connection to the light AND still be undead. Similar to how night elves can do the quest and gain their black eyes, we’ll probably see some kind of quest where Calia “heals” the forsaken of the curse aspect of their affliction…leading to paladins being a playable class and having the newer “cleaner” undead models like Nathanos and Calia have.

Except there were undead paladins npcs in classic.

There aren’t forsaken children… because they were turned into abomination and other horrifying flesh craft monsters.

The plague was only step one. Countless were killed directly by Arthas. Some raised as death knight but sure enough same were raised as regular undead hence the major undead paladin we fight who is still being controlled by the lich king.

Yeah, this is something that wasn’t talked about in game as far as I know. What happened to Blood Elf Paladins when they became Void Elves?

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And where is the source to this, Zandrae?

Except nothing is been taken away.

And out of the entire game history, where has the factions really made any sense?

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his mere feelings, and now that alliance has void elves he just hang on in what he considers the most iconic thing of blood elves, being paladin.

i feel bad for the man because it hurted me when blizz added blood elves to the horde, but alliance is so dead that blizzard will turn this game into a thalassian civil war

They did not go with the group seeking the opposite power they worship.

i dunno my fellow alliance, alonsus did, and the twilight hammer have some “paladins”, if arthas could be made dk…

Priests are not infused with the light, and uses their powers externally like a mage would.

Those paladins still used light magic, with light magic animations.

this have been debunked once and once again, a draenei paladin uses the light a LIGHTFORGED draenei is infused with light being it paladin or not, being paladin is not being infused by the light, ie. blood elves started stealing holy magic from a naaru.

this is a contradiction this comment:

No it has not.

I litterally post a clip earlier on this thread of uther being infused in his memory questline.

The twilight hammer has 0 to do with the VE questline bro. It us not a contradiction.

Blood Elves have Paladins and Void Elves don’t because they aren’t void tainted or void corrupted like Void Elves, it’s why we don’t bleed blue, glow blue, look weird, sound weird, etc.

Also lol, it’s more than ironic that you’d try to talk about someone else being bothered by something while saying you got bothered by something as little as the faction of the High Elves already being the Horde, I mean it’s the High Elfer crowd that can’t let go of the fact Horde has the real Blood Elves/High Elves and that was why Void Elves were added but that didn’t help Alliance, then getting our skintones didn’t help Alliance and then finally getting our hair colors didn’t help Alliance, did you ever think maybe nothing is going to help Alliance because people don’t actually want to play that side.

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When I want to as a High Elf fan play the playable High Elf race I know which options I am choosing and what has been reflected from Blizzard over the years, and more obviously currently right down to our racials not turning into Blueberries in combat.

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That clip does not confirm Uther being infused.

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if blizzard wants blizzard does and there’s nothing anybody can do, they gave alliance things because alliance is in a bad state and they will try to lure people there, lore have been added and retconed so many times they will find the way

i meant i was delused when they announced the belves back in TBC not that i still dislike the thing

void elves are by far the more used RA in teh alliance if they were not locked they for sure would be more played that some core races.

i played horde before Velves were added, and do people like to play alliance but the snowball effect is hard to stop, hope 9.2.5 fix things a bit.

If people can’t actually put in a little bit of time to do the storyline there after the other stuff was mostly removed they clearly don’t want them.

That’s fine and maybe so time will tell, I do however find it really hard to believe anyone will change to Void Elf from a Blood Elf when they can be an actual High Elf, not glow, not bleed weird, etc. and still play with Alliance friends it’s just logical that if anything the Blood Elf population will continue to grow bigger and bigger not shrink.

some wants so bad the entire silvermoon to turn blue, and others like me like the evolution of the elves in the alliance even if that makes my perfect blonde blue eyed pale skinned high elf, turns and bleeds blue.

if they can stand orgrimmar among pseudo monsters they will do, but alliance is so dead the only people play it really like the faction so it can only grow.

why are you bringing up silvermoon

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as Hyperbole to denote two diferent and exagerated points of view

That’s why it would be better if Alliance side just died out completely, I mean that way everyone would have to play Horde and then people wouldn’t have to play bargain bin Blood Elves as Void Elves or pretend that they aren’t part of the anti Blood Elfer crowd despite wanting to take everything from Blood Elves for Void Elves just because it’s on the blue side.

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Ah. This thread is still going. idk what it’s even about anymore. I just asked if we had physical examples of the reactions of magic. I feel like blizzard would benefit from making a series of chapters of people studying magic screwing up and severely injuring or killing themselves around reactions resulting from the different types of magic but who knows blizzard is allergic to world building I suppose.