Is there any real argument for not opening up race / class combos?

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

@Yuineko-stormrage

Tell me why a gnome pally doesn’t make sense then

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

Paladin is not a calling typically pursued by gnomes.

[Yuineko-stormrage]

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

Paladin is not a calling typically pursued by gnomes.

Nor was priest, but they picked it up. They’ve been allies with the humans for GENERATIONS, as well as the dwarves, and both are super heavy on paladins. Is it really that much of a stretch for a gnome to be like “I wanna be a paladin!”?

Especially considering they have priests canonically, and they consider themselves medics instead of being a light worshiper. Not that far fetched for one to put on armor.

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

@Yuineko-stormrage

Nor was priest, but they picked it up.

@Tenebrae-eredar

All of that doesn’t make sense.
But you don’t have to make it worse.

[Yuineko-stormrage]

Gnome paladin makes a lot more sense than most other race / class combos people ask for, and a lot that we already got.

But you’re just an antagonistic troll, so.

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

@Yuineko-stormrage

But you’re just an antagonistic troll, so.

You made a thread masquerading as a discussion when it’s obvious you were never going to accept any argument against what you want.

So which of us is the troll?

[Mattyfresh-lightnings-blade (Mattyfresh)]

It’s closer to a rodent than a race

[Tenebrae-eredar]

@Yuineko-stormrage

Tell me why a gnome pally doesn’t make sense then.

Gnomes aren’t religious. They’re quite rational.
That includes the priests that were shoehorned. Quote from the WarcraftWiki: “While priests among the other races may play the roles of clerics and prophets, gnome priests refer to themselves as doctors, medics, and surgeons.”

Since the light doesn’t work that way, it doesn’t make much sense. Same with goblins, who use “willpower, driven by greed”.

Furthermore, due to their size, gnomes are unlikely to make useful knights.
Yes, the argument also applies to warriors in most of the cases.

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Your argument is essentially based on the following: if A exists, then B must be possible. This ignores the fact that A already makes no sense. The foundation is flawed as is everything that will be built upon it.

[Yuineko-stormrage]

@Tenebrae-eredar

Since the light doesn’t work that way

It does work that way though. You don’t have to be religious to use the Light, you just have to have faith in yourself and that you’re doing the right thing, and reach out for it.

@Tenebrae-eredar

Furthermore, due to their size, gnomes are unlikely to make useful knights.

Cool, they’ve had warrior for 20 years, DK for 15, SV Hunter for a while now, monk (which is honestly a strength class in disguise).

[Tenebrae-eredar]

@Yuineko-stormrage

It does work that way though. You don’t have to be religious to use the Light, you just have to have faith in yourself and that you’re doing the right thing, and reach out for it.

Yeah that doesn’t make sense.
You kinda need training, for years. Where’d you get that? At the church or something similar. If you just want power, they’ll show you the door right away.

@Yuineko-stormrage

Cool, they’ve had warrior for 20 years, DK for 15, SV Hunter for a while now, monk (which is honestly a strength class in disguise).

Doesn’t change the fact that just a well-placed kick from an orc would shatter a gnome’s entire ribcage and that they would have the strength of a 12-year-old at most.

DKs? Why would Arthas resurrect a gnome with pink braids? The fooking Lich King? That doesn’t make any sense either.

[Hollytrinity-skull-rock]

@Kyoho-silvermoon

Evokers, maybe add new visage forms exclusive to the class. They dont even need all the dragon features.

just the eyes which all races have already cuz of the npcs

[Yuineko-stormrage]

@Tenebrae-eredar

Yeah that doesn’t make sense.

Doesn’t need to make sense, that’s how it’s worked since before WoW was even a thing. Back in Warcraft it worked that way.

@Tenebrae-eredar

Doesn’t change the fact that just a well-placed kick from an orc would shatter a gnome’s entire ribcage and that they would have the strength of a 12-year-old at most.

So an orc fighting a pit lord or giant dragon is different how?

[Hollytrinity-skull-rock]

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

Paladin is not a calling typically pursued by gnomes.

“Typically,” is irrelevant. All it takes is 1 gnome, the player character. Boom.

[Yuineko-stormrage]

I have to imagine some gnomes became curious in the light given they’ve been allied with humans and dwarves for, you know, centuries.

[Zaletath-moon-guard]

yes… If I can’t have my main Gnome Pally… no body is getting what they want either!!! LOL

[Hollytrinity-skull-rock]

@Tenebrae-eredar

Gnomes aren’t religious. They’re quite rational.

Gnomes aren’t a hive mind. There is no cosmic force preventing a gnome from converting to the church of the light.

@Tenebrae-eredar

Furthermore, due to their size, gnomes are unlikely to make useful knights.

Gnomes have always had warriors so this has never been a consideration.

@Tenebrae-eredar

Your argument is essentially based on the following: if A exists, then B must be possible. This ignores the fact that A already makes no sense.

It really doesn’t matter if something makes no sense. If it exists, it exists. Period. You can dislike it’s existence until the cows come home but that won’t make it exist any less.

@Tenebrae-eredar

You kinda need training, for years. Where’d you get that? At the church or something similar. If you just want power, they’ll show you the door right away.

Yeah a gnome can convert. I’ve known people raised athiest who then converted to christianity. It’s a thing that happens.

@Tenebrae-eredar

Doesn’t change the fact that just a well-placed kick from an orc would shatter a gnome’s entire ribcage and that they would have the strength of a 12-year-old at most.

This is not how the lore of warcraft works. So don’t larp about caring about the lore while ignoring it.

@Tenebrae-eredar

DKs? Why would Arthas resurrect a gnome with pink braids? The fooking Lich King? That doesn’t make any sense either.

So you just hate wow lore then?

What is in the lore and what is in canon has nothing to do with what “makes sense” to you or your delicate sensibilities.

[Zaletath-moon-guard]

So, What I’m reading here is we need to REMOVE some class/race combo’s.

agreed.

[Hollytrinity-skull-rock]

@Zaletath-moon-guard

So, What I’m reading here is we need to REMOVE some class/race combo’s.

and what pray tell would happen to someone playing one of the race/class combos youf ind personally distasteful?

[Brizah-perenolde]

No good reason, but plenty of bad ones. That’s all it takes.

[Shadybolt-thrall]

@Brizah-perenolde

No good reason, but plenty of bad ones.

The reasons are all self-explanatory. Ascribing whether they are “good” or “bad” is just a contrarian’s view of objective reality.

They want to, eventually, get to a point where “All races have access to most (with very few exceptions) classes.” It takes time, development, has to make sense in-universe, and work out in terms of their release plans.

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There’s no real argument outside of the objective reality that it takes time to get all of the things to align properly.
Nothing about that is good or bad, it is just what it is.

[Brizah-perenolde]

@Shadybolt-thrall

The reasons are all self-explanatory. Ascribing whether they are “good” or “bad” is just a contrarian’s view of objective reality.

Oh you are a mystic one aren’t ya. What else does your crystal ball say?