Sure, this isn’t explicitly told to you.
However, you’re knowledgeable enough to care about the quality of your crafted gear, and thus I would expect you to take the lack of ability to demand a quality from Public Orders as evidence that Public Orders are not meant to be your first resort for gear.
I think the game should default an order to ‘personal’ order and make people intentionally switch to ‘public’ with a note saying what this tradeoff is.
A lot of people I notice didnt even know you could send personal orders. I think this would fix a lot.
New players are filtered to the Dragon Isles. If that wasn’t the case and the tutorial quests were in Grizzly hills, I’d agree. But the quests are in the main questline associated with the professions introduction in the new player experience.
Definitely agree with this; a bit of a UX issue as far as readability goes.
Okay, scenario B: One of your friends gifts you the heroic edition. You are a new player but you got a boost and of course want to jump right into playing the game with your friend so you use the boost. Maybe you first level in Exiles Reach on a different character but then you think naaaah takes too long cause you’re excited to play this new expansion with your friend.
Chances you’ll get in contact with the new crafting system in DF let alone understand it amongst the ten million things you won’t understand about the game as a new player are extremely slim.
My point just being: It’s silly to defend the fact this game would be absolutely impossible to understand for new players without wowhead and/or icyveins and/or video guides - whether it comes to crafting or… pretty much everything else.
Something that they should do for this, in the crafting order ui they need to make personal orders the default option and include a tutorial where you send a work order to a npc. It should properly check server name, material quality, setting quality requests, etc.
The only value for public orders are for quality agnostic items like treatises, cosmetics, and crests for crafting upgrades.
Unfortunately, no. Even if you ask for a quality level, the person doing the craft can troll you and make something awful. Asked for T5, got T4. Now I have to waste acuity for a recraft - #826 by Voliska-atiesh
I don’t think I did more than 20 actual quests for this particular toon. I leveled in dungeons and pvp. I honestly never really spent more than a couple hours on questing and the quests I did I just did them extremely fast. I don’t care for the leveling process. I am however perfectly willing to admit that if there is some sort of walkthrough I indeed missed it due to my own style of play. However, that shouldn’t be possible for the player either and again that’s a failure to design a decent system. A player should either not be allowed to participate in the system without having completed the quests or tutorials, or there should just simply be a warning. It is unreasonable to think a player should have to literally go out of their way to research everything they do in a videogame particularly when there is an entire system that exists in order to do so. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal…but it is silly the way it works. Just seems completely unnecessary and just personally I can’t think of a single logical reason to allow it to exist in the first place. If you wanna make something highest quality and you goy buy all the stuff to make the highest quality item you should simply get the highest quality item when you are paying someone for it. Honestly knowing this I will never ever use that system again and I can’t imagine a single person would, what reason would there ever be to just “hope” you get good gear? That’s absolutely insanely foolish. It’s a bad system.
No crafter is going to care that you put a note on a public order, especially if you offer a nice tip. Everyone is going to be clicking as fast as they can to do your order and get that gold.
Yea obviously but there isn’t any way to know that if you just walk up and interact with the system the way I did. It’s not designed very well. That’s all.
There is a way to get a refund if you’re comfortable with begging 
There was a questline in Dragonflight that walked you through how crafting works, now.
There was even a bit where, after Thomas & Miguel Bright explain it to you, you had to go to an NPC (an Undead in a Top Hat) and explain it to him.
He wants to know why he should bother sending Miguel a personal order. And while everyone’s favorite answer was “Miguel is handsome” (and the Undead replies that he cannot disagree with that), the actual reason is that you can specify item quality. Which shocks him and he immediately agrees to send his business Miguel’s way.
Considering the number of people calling out in Trade chat offering to make high level items, I wonder why anyone would do a public order when wanting that high level. Is it discomfit or a fear of actually talking to someone?
You can have it recrafted.
Yeah sure naw. A lot of people throw up non-ranked items for pub orders, or just put up orders not caring about actual rank. Just because public orders don’t serve your personal needs doesn’t mean they’re useless or that “no one is ever going to get what they want.”
It’s fine for items that don’t have quality. But would get infinitely more use if they allowed min quality selection.
This. If you put something up for public order you are basically telling the crafters that you aren’t concerned about the quality because if you were, you’d be using a personal order.
A guy today put up a public order and I did it but only got it to rank 4, I figured “meh, if they were worried about maxing it, they would have got a personal order done”.
They msg me a bit later asking why I didn’t max it, so I refunded the tip (2500 gold) to cover his recraft cost.
Not everyone wants to screw you over, but like I said, if you put it up on public it sends the signal you just want it made and don’t really care about the quality so if you do it, roll the dice and take your chances.
This is a miserable argument. WoW is a product you pay for and instructions on how to play and use the games systems should be easily available in the game.
What is actually happening (using your car example) is that you are buying a car with no buttons or dials labeled and then having a mechanic look at it so he can figure out what all the different buttons do, how to start the car and operate it, and then write a manual for you to reference while you’re driving down the highway.
Blizzard should take the time to explain how things work in their games. But you guys will defend any slop they drop in front of you.
They are. No clue what that guy is doing, there’s literally explanations including a quest where you have to explain the system to an NPC
Where does it explain that you shouldn’t ever use public orders for something you want a specific quality for?
Where you explain to an NPC that it’s better to do personal because you can set minimum qualities.