Well, here’s the rub, so fire up the hate and start typing before you finish reading.
If you think there is ONE single player in this game who has not used Thottbot, WoWHead, Icy-Veins, Google, or YouTube in every single expansion since TRUE vanilla classic in 2004… you would be wrong. There is not a single game on this PLANET that has not either made a fan site to help others, or some cheat code system to bypass the mundane.
Where the game is today is MILES above the quality it was 20 years ago, but if you REALLY want to know what is wrong with WoW, it is the lack of
- Common Sense
- Deductive Reasoning
If I was going to pay for an item that had a “Range” available, I would expect it to come back on the low end since most crafters who just do orders for weeklies are stingy with their mats and focus. If I know I need a 603 and not a 584, I am going to look for someone in Trade who can make what I need by linking it, getting the mats together and then making it a direct to them order with the agreed tip.
People seem to think this game works itself out, and nothing like this could ever go wrong… How many of us have accidently Disenchanted the item we intended to enchant? How may of us sold our weapon not realizing it was the fishing pole we had equipped and not a 2H? How many of us accidently tossed things out of our bank, permanently destroying them ultimately forcing Blizz to make certain items unsellable and indestructible?
If people cannot think for themselves, and do it quickly, they will sink and suffer… and I can’t feel bad for someone not using common sense. Does it suck? Sure. Should we have to rely on anything outside the game? Absolutely not. It is just how things work in Every single game on the planet? Yes.
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If your in New York, report it and whoever filled the order will be quickly euthanized
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You’re supposed to know that because it’s the only crafting order interface that doesn’t allow you to require certain quality. Seems pretty obvious.
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Kind reminder that a solid 99% of the player base don’t have common sense or common decency when it comes to public orders, so putting it on even with a note saying max rank, you’re gambling.
Always best to have alts that have the spec so you can do it yourself. Or friends (does WoW even do that anymore?) that have the skill set.
Honestly, just do what I started doing last season and supply nothing, and leave a note as “compensation for the illiterate that didn’t read the 5* note”. Legitimately amazing how often that’s worked with the very rare times I’ve not had the recipe or spec.
Yeah, I decided to try doing some crafting last week. Every time I’ve gone to check the patron orders, I’ve also checked the public orders, and every time without fail they’ve been completely empty.
It seems like it’s kind of worthless for both sides of the transaction at the moment.
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You had us in the first half, not gonna lie. The lack of common sense is assuming that the order which is not designed to have minimum quality will have a minimum quality.
You have no idea what you are even talking about do you?
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You are supposed to know that by doing a quick but if research. There are so many articles out there on the crafting system and how to use it. Also a few recent threads on this forum.
And before anyone asks yes I think that doing research is a vital part of this game . I would never play without doing it
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Blizzard has explained how to use the crafting system in game. There are quests that do that and NPCs you can talk to.
But in general there is no way They can put everything in the game . Right from the start 3rd party sites have been the go to for information.
Ths is 2024. The internet is now the norm for getting information. I would do at least 30 minutes research a day on wow to make sure of changes or how to best use the systems.
Small claims court, but that isn’t till season 3.
Crafting doesn’t work how it used to.
People have to use their own resources to guarantee higher ranks - Concentration.
You can’t provide that to them. It restores slowly over time. You’re paying because they effectively have a limit on how many high quality items they can craft that day or two, and you’re wanting your item to be one of those items.
Crafters can specialize and that can eliminate or mitigate the need for concentration in whatever they’re specialized in, but most people aren’t sifting through a pile of crafters to find one specialized in the exact thing they want, they’re just wanting someone who CAN make it.
Similarly - Recrafting requires Artisan’s Acuity. You CAN provide it, but if you aren’t a crafter yourself you likely have basically none (especially if you’ve eaten through the amount you get from the profession intro quests, which I know many people skip out on if they don’t normally pick up professions). Crafters generally want to be paid if they have to use their own. It’s fairly limited.
Lol people still doing this when entire guilds are grabbing public orders to craft them at the worst quality for the lulz.
The fix to this system is…boe.
Inb4 now the game is P2w rants. Not trying to open that can of worms. But yeah…I am thinking of a similar system in eve.
We have plasmid modules. You “reforge” these to use wow speak and sell them. Open market no BOP, hell no BOE.
Buyers don’t get scammed. the item is already made. If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
sellers…put the risk costs into really good “reforges”. You will lose say 200 million in crap rolls on the plasmid mutations to gear.
But when you get that good one, you sell that for at least 300 million. 200 mil in costs made back, 100 mil profit.
you can have it recrafted or negotiate something with the crafter directly. How high is your diplomacy skill?
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There IS a quest somewhere that explains the WO systems. It just get skipped a lot.
The other night I happened to notice a public order’s note requesting R4 or 5. I spent concentration to make an R5 because the person’s tip was good. If he’d had a crap tip I’d have passed on it.
But yeah, do NOT expect r4/5 when doing a public order.
Finding out the hard way.
They aren’t
It’s an awful system… I had to learn the hard way myself.
I had a person send one of my characters a work order once in the last month of DF. Well, actually they sent a couple of orders over few days. So I guess the system worked as devs imagined. A lot of work over two years for that one encounter though.
That’s not a solution, that’s an execution of the crafting system.
…Then you’re like 99% of the playerbase that never reads quest text.