Just wanted to say thanks for discussing all of this with me. I know I get frustrated with this system, but I do value your point of view.
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That’s fair. I do disagree with you here but you do tend to be very well-spoken, even in cases we don’t see eye to eye
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I appreciate you too ty for the conversation. Sorry if I came across as rude.
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Not at all! Frustration is understandable. But you weren’t rude whatsoever to me. You’re good.
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Recrafts are much cheaper on materials, and only require the base stuff.
However, the public orders use this as a mafia to charge stupid prices to for recrafts. I never craft anything outside of the guild.
No, you are not a moron, you are just new to system and you made mistake just like we all did. Now you learned lesson and you will know in the future.
WoW is a massive game, its database is huge and not everything can be explained in detail to everyone (even it is explained, it is just people skipping), even support is sending people to wowhead and 3rd party sites for explanation.
Public orders as they currently exist, are only useful for items that don’t have a quality.
There was literally no actual benefit to disallowing quality specification on them. TBH, Public orders needed the ability to set minimum quality more than Guild and personal orders. Frankly, if public orders had the option to specify quality, there wouldn’t be a need to even have personal orders at all. There would be infinitely more engagement in the craft order system with that one simple adjustment.
And how in the world did they not add Warband orders to the system when Warbands were added is beyond me.
the system is fine. public orders don’t have a minimum quality requirement. this is why you don’t use them if you are concerned about the quality you receieve.
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- WoWHead
- Icy-Veins
- These forums
Before you do anything in this game that you are unsure about, google what you are about to do and then act accordingly. You would not navigate a city you do not know without a map, or a GPS. WoW is the unknown city. Better luck on the next craft. Thankfully you can get more mats and gold in a day to try again.
You shouldn’t have to use third party sources to figure out how a game works.
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The fact you can’t set a quality should be self explanatory.
Well, the quest npcs that teach the system in both dragonflight and tww tell you. Unless you skipped all of the reading. Also there’s about 57000 posts about it across redit and the forums.
You also don’t need:
- GPS to find your destination
- The internet to look things up
- A car to get to work
- Air conditioning to survive the heat
- Shoes to go out running
- Social media to influence independent thinking
Need vs want… it’s a slippery slope.
You duped and screwed yourself by not understanding how the system worked before you got impatient asking in trade and just placed the order publicly.
I could see if it was brand new, but the system is on its second expansion. Even if it’s your first time, a quick Google to confirm would have saved you.
welcome to WoW, I see you’re new here. we’ve been using third party sources for 20 years.
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Ill be honest…I actually thought you could add a minimum quality in the order lol
Shows how much I use it.
Yeah, it’s kind of silly that the order method that would benefit the most from quality selection is the only one that doesn’t allow it.
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I mean I get that…I’ve been here awhile myself. Just coming back after a long time away. There’s lots of things I don’t mind looking up like routes or mechanics or how to find some rare things but this is different in my ever so humble opinion. For someone who doesn’t know better the way it’s laid out isn’t all that confusing. You go to the vendor and sort of plug and play and figure what you want. A logical person would think after asking for several hours that it was just something you were gonna end up waiting for. It would literally just require a sentence or two in a pop up window saying
“Using the public crafting system does not guarantee full quality items - are you sure you wish to proceed?”
This would instantly have stopped me from doing it. Again it’s not some life changing event or anything like that but doing all of the stuff to get the piece made is a bit of work… particularly the first time you do it. To have a system that on the surface looks quite simple but then to bake in some completely unexplainable and quite frankly broken system inside of it … Is misleading and foolish at best.
I don’t need anyone to hold my hand I am usually pretty good at figuring out what needs to be done but legitimately the only reason I even knew the crafting system was a thing was because of in game chat…I heard about the system from being in the game not from scrolling some internet thread or guide that I didn’t even know i needed. A game should absolutely not require you to study before you even play it. Who wants to play a game that way that actually just sucks. Games, should be played and experienced in the game. If they can’t make a system that doesn’t require homework to participate in than the system shouldn’t exist. It’s a game not a freaking s.a.t. test. I was done studying 20 years ago.
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I ran into this in Dragonflight so what I did was wrote down the names of those who were able to give me highest quality and then I’d use the prof system to put in personal orders to be filled by that specific person.
I always tipped really well so it worked out good.
After screwing up the necklace in DF, I learned to get just regular level stuff crafted to see who could give highest quality.
That list saved me a lot of time and gold.
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maybe they should work on the new things they implement being more intuitively understood by players rather than making them so complicated you need three NPCs, a wowhead article, and GD to explain them to you in order to fully understand how they work.
Besides, “this was explained in -any expansion prior to the current one-” is never a good justification as to why the player is to blame. New players exist.
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