Absolutely.
That LFR didn’t work properly in terms of loot drops proves it without a shadow of doubt.
big time.
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No, Blizzard is connected with their community it just feels like a disconnect to you, myself and others because we are not part of the community within the community which they have a connection with. We have to remember the community is huge, it is full of sub communities, and even communities within those sub communities. It’s impossible for them to appear connected to the entire community.
For a lot of things, yes. Not most of it though.
Again these guys need to follow the trends—MMOs particularly PvE aren’t great things to watch as a spectator e-sport. It’s not a competition. It’s literally watching who can play dark souls as a team with more buttons better.
What’s left is a what we’ve seen over the past 10 years with what Wizards of the Coast has done with DnD, with how accessible MOBAs have been, and lower entry and access to content. That drives sales.
Someone pointed this out earlier in 2016 apparently a Dev said less than half of the population in WoW does Mythic Raiding. But know what 
% of the population does? Leveling. I see here is that what they did with the lvling scale is great because it’s so many options on content you can go level off in and do stuff surrounded by story. Then you get to 50 and the entire environment changed.
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Yep.
Yes.
Like ruining quality of life for regular players just to slightly slow down the top 500 players from destroying your new raid in a week. Who even cares?
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That is exactly what he said… he said that feeling marginalized is to be frivolous. He people is saying people who feel marginalized (dismissed, discounted, belittled) are not entitled to express those feelings because they are being frivolous (petty, idiotic, impractical). That is what those words mean.
To quote you: “what he said is that acting like you’re being dismissed, discounted, or belittled is petty, idiotic, or impractical”. This is not any different… I am not sure you know what marginalized and frivolous mean when used in his sentence.
People have a right to feel that their playstyle was not considered when the current game design was developed. Just one tiny example: The current game designers never considered that a casual player might go in alone and at a moments notice have to stop and put a child to bed, to go take out the trash, chat with a spouse or otherwise step away from the game for a few minutes only to come back dead. (The open world allows you to find a safe place to park and handle real-life) It is terrible design to spend a a huge chunk of time in torgast only to have an unsurmountable DPS check at the end. How hard would it have been to build a difficulty slider? or have different difficulties?
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yawn 2020s cancel culture is so tiresome. He only said acting marginalised is frivolous, he never said that those who feel so aren’t entitled to express their opinion.
No, that is what you need them to mean to build the strawman you’re attacking.
uh the current designers are all parents and if anything they’ve made the game such that people have every ability to group together to find people like them and that there are multiple end-game activities that many find rewarding.
your rants and your pitchforks and your persecution mania. so boring.
sorry gotta go buff torg some more… people aren’t happy with the place…
Again someone who is using words they do not understand… I have not said that people should cancel anything.
the irony of 2020s folk complaining about words being put in their mouth when THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO is just perfect.
It’s no big deal if someone says acting marginalised is frivolous so you have to spin that into him saying people are frivolous and are foaming at the mouth at something no one said but you want it to mean because thats how you get your soapbox. It’s completely 2020s and utterly obvious what you’re trying to do, you steaming cabbage.
Whatever… you know nothing.
I really wish, sincerely, we could discuss the concerns and ascertain if they are legitimate (objectively! Though i appreciate i was recently called out for my abuse of that term :))
We hit our 8th connected realms number in Sept of this yr and cant beat the bakers dozen for raiding lol…
Only until you compare it to much larger canyons.
On topic:
There’s always a disconnect. It just often lacks the effect (how much player enjoyment or game funding is thus lost) or frame (the problems behind why that disconnect may exist) to be problematic, let alone pertinent.
That said, I think what we’re experiencing in Shadowlands, depending on what content one typically does, at least borders that problematic territory. The effects vary from complaints in regards to Torghast to the likes of World Quest bugs or spec balancing. The frames arguably show that the devs believe us placatable by small gimmicks, rather than holistic quality, which is likely problematic. Is it pertinent though? I’m not sure. We certainly don’t seem in position to do much, if anything, about it. Some movements across the forums or the like could rapidly change that, though.
No.
I think the majority of players in the community understand Blizzard owns, manages and develops WoW and they are just customers of the product.
It’s the entitled outliers in the community who think their fifteen dollars a month buys them a seat at the table that are disconnected.
I don’t know if it was that one or an older one where they talked about the specific breakdown of numbers, but in one of them it came out that while around 30% of players ONLY did PvE and 30% ONLY did PvP, the remaining 40% of players did a little bit of everything. So not only are the amount of bleeding edge PvErs a substantial minority, the people who ONLY do PvE are too.
Logically, to keep the most number of players, you’d do the thing that appeals to the biggest majority which are people who play a little bit of everything. That is why LK was the most successful expansion and had the most players and KEPT them. Because it was the most accessible and allowed everyone to do everything, but also didn’t punish you if you ONLY wanted to PvE/PvP AND still allowed bleeding edge elitists to have their edgelord content.
Instead they skipped right over that “30% that only do PvE” and for years have been solely designing this game around the 5-10% that do bleeding edge content while trying to act like the other 90% aren’t the ones actually keeping the lights on as they continue to bleed subs year after year doubling down on the same stupid decisions that were started in Cata.
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Exactly how I feel. Literally I’m at 189 and I’m like what do I do now? Just grind out these dungeons at m6? Why does it feel like there’s nothing to do now except bend to the Dark Souls style M+ and Raiding?
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In Blizzard’s defence, all expacs felt this way for anyone who didn’t raid. But before mythic +, which supplies an endless grind for gear (and disappointment xD), we did our dailies, our daily heroics, farmed our badges/valor points and that was it. Simpler times, which made raids more exciting, especially without LFR, which is why Wrath of the Lich King is often pointed to as the best expac.
That was before I went casual, and it always felt that without raiding, there was no reason to keep playing.