Is the point of nerfing rewards for Delves to force more players to Mythic?

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Is the point of nerfing rewards for Delves to force more players to Mythic?

ill take Jumping to Conclusions as a result of Speculative tuning for 500$ Alex

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I donā€™t believe they are asking in relation to any tuning. A statement was made wherein Blizzard acknowledged T8 and up delves were devaluing M+ keys at 7 and below.

Given Blizzardā€™s history, this has a high degree of probability of meaning delve rewards get torpedoed in some way.

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everything he says is lawyer speak, even when he tries to ā€˜hello fellow childrenā€™ with the playerbase, you can still smell the musty odor of a courtroom.

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There is an interview though, and knowing Ionā€™s background as a lawyer, pretty easy to confer context from it.

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Yep. Less toxic ones.

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I hope if they do this the you can only get 3 pieces of gear from M+ a week. Fair is fair.

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Pretty sure the point would be so that Mythic+ players DONā€™T feel forced to do Delves. And will instead do Mythic 0 - 7.

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This is a bad take and possibly people are very OCD about the GV. The rewards for M+ are so much better then delves. Also 4 delves takes an overgeared player less then an hour a week to do. You get 6 coins a week if all the gear is a duplicate to improve gear and ofc crests can be traded up. There is no reason for m+ to do delves at all. Even WQs give bank slots for coins you can trade for crests.

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Yeah all he said was something akin to people who geared in delves thought they could go into 7s without learning the dungeons. Pretty true. If I had full hero track max gear with no heroic or normal raid experience I would have trouble getting into raid groups. Youā€™d at least need to start at 3s.

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Or D, buff m+ rewards.

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No, delves are just too far rewarding for a solo mode.

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If that is their plan, it wonā€™t have the desired effect. It will simply just kill Delves and drive players away since they wonā€™t be able to progress their character.

They had a good thing with Delves at the start of the expansion. Seems like they are hell bent on killing the feature just because their pride and joy Mythic+ isnā€™t getting the attention they want it to. I can tell you right now that I donā€™t find them fun or engaging at this point. Just a tedious slog.

They could have just, you know, made Mythic+ less of a pain and more rewarding like it was before, but that would have been logical and would have solved that little problem.

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True. I was expecting them to be harder and all 12 tiers to reward gear. Clearly i was wrong to think blizzard would make solo content challenging.

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I think the more likely route they will take is nerfing earlier M+ difficulty or buffing their rewards to make it easier to get into and learn rather than do solo content then immediately slam into +7s.

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There is a problem if you finish gearing via delves and want to get higher crests / mythic gear and have never set foot in M+.

Frankly, Iā€™d love to see delves go higher in tier and get harderā€¦ much harderā€¦ and reward mythic gear and crests and avoid any pressure to run M+.

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And people doing Delves to 619 before touching M+ is much less a problem of Delves being good but rather M+ to 619 is kind of bad (at least for those starting fresh).

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The problem with that is determining what various players find challenging.
T11 was starting to get fun for me, but Billybob may be challenged at T7, and Susan might have a hard time at T5.
There are some prettyā€¦ā€œnot goodā€ players that Blizz has to account for in their tuning. I do thing delves going up to likeā€¦20(?) would be good for being able to give a challenge to more players.

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Easy solution: remove Mythic+. Fixed.

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Meh, Iā€™ve been done with M+ for a while so if they nerf delve rewards Iā€™ll just end up playing less.

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Problem is not delves difficulty nor is it gear from delves.
The problem is low key Pug life.
After week 2 of any given season low keys become a cess pool bordering on insanity due to sociopathy of:
ā€¢ +2s arenā€™t for learning affixes you idiots.
ā€¢ some noob bricked my +3 key.
ā€¢ tanks/healers are braindead roles, why donā€™t more play?
ā€¢ etc
M+ runners used delves as a solution to the problem of low key pug cesspool.
Fixing the actual problem has nothing to do with delves.

Personally I solved the problem for myself with the easiest solution:
Donā€™t pug.