He probably cares more for trolling other players, who do in fact care about the topic that is SV, and its design.
Those melee players ARE hunters.
Survival is hardly melee and often deals like 60-80% of our damage in an arena or bg from range. It’s really sad that after 6 or 7 years they still refuse to learn a different approach to a class.
Mawthtone has been debating with Bepples for years over this topic. Mawthtone started posting regularly in the late days of BFA.
So really, this is an old debate between the two of them.
I only wanted to add the context, is all.
Then it shouldn’t be a problem to make the whole thing ranged. Why keep it melee when apparently the best thing about the spec is how ranged it is?
I can weave between melee and ranged as MM and BM too.
So the best thing about the spec is that it has a handicap to overcome? Should we make a Hunter spec where you have to jump and do a 360 spin every time between shots?
You shouldn’t be punching mobs as BM
If you want to melee you should consider Survival. It’s a very fun and well-developed spec.
BM: Can do full damage between 0-40 yards
MM: Can do full damage between 0-40 yards
SV: Can not do full damage between 0-40 yards
The choice is pretty clear.
Maybe we shouldn’t define an entire spec’s identity on a handicap.
P.S. If it were fun and well-developed it would be played by more than 5% of the Hunter playerbase.
Copium lol
You still comment on my videos.
But you dont. You dont like what it is now and bully anyone who enjoys it. Thats not how you do things when you care. Its delusional.
So what your saying is… Its still RSV? Whoa. People been complaining over literally nothing this whole time! Oh wait nvm I forgot, it doesnt use a bow so there for its broken. Silly me sorry!
so just like an improved version of the one we had in classic.
Wait so now you wanna melee? Whats the literal point of doing that as your holy RANGED SPEC?
You are part of the “95%” but if any of those hunters are anything like you, they just never actually tried it or know what they are even doing. So if thats the case, you have absolutely zero knowledge or authority to claim whats good or bad. You just sound stupid trying to do so.
Are you saying that Arms Warriors are handicapped and should be reworked into a ranged spec where they throw large weapons at their opponents
But I do, it’s former design aspects.
You dont like what it is now and bully anyone who enjoys it. Thats not how you do things when you care. Its delusional.
How am I bullying anyone? Do you know what “bullying” means? Also, I have no issue with the fact that some people enjoy it, I only look at their arguments which they post.
And no, I don’t particularly care for it’s current design. But I do understand that some players do enjoy it, hence my main argument in this whole discussion, that RSV should not replace current SV, but should be returned as a 4th option.
Meanwhile, you might enjoy playing current SV, but you don’t care much for these discussions beyond having the opportunity to troll other posters, this part has become blatantly obvious.
Arms is in a class defined by melee weapons.
Survival is in a class defined by ranged weapons.
Hunter isnt defined by ranged weapons though. That may be your personal view but its not objective.
nvm I forgot, it doesnt use a bow so there for its broken.
While I know you are being sarcastic, this is essentially correct. Probably the number one contributor to SVs unpopularity is the lack of an equippable, moggable bow. Since good or bad performance seems to be irrelevant in PvE, when it comes to SV popularity.
Hunter isnt defined by ranged weapons though. That may be your personal view but its not objective
It seems like this fellow is confusing a hunter archetype with a ranger archetype.
If there is any other consideration to what a hunter could be or how they might play in an alternative style, he gets… upset.
It was until the Legion developers show up, and they still make many design assumptions about the class that assume it’s defined by ranged weapons (e.g. starting with a ranged weapon at level 1, many baseline and talented ranged elements).
For 95% of the people playing Hunter it’s still the ranged weapon class. Even Survival is using a ranged weapon, but to a limited capacity. Just make it unlimited and it’s good.
But I do, it’s former design aspects.
Play MM. Closest you will get. Let it go.
Arms is in a class defined by melee weapons.
Survival is in a class defined by ranged weapons.
Mental gymnastics.
Hunter isnt defined by ranged weapons though.
They are more recognized as the spec that uses pets if anything
Probably the number one contributor to SVs unpopularity is the lack of an equippable, moggable bow.
They can do both.
It was until the Legion developers show up, and they still make many design assumptions about the class that assume it’s defined by ranged weapons (e.g. starting with a ranged weapon at level 1, many baseline and talented ranged elements).
Its shadowlands and you use information from classic era. This is how you tried to go at me any change you got meanwhile forgetting we are at our 8th expansion far past what you always wanted to make a point at.
Why don’t you go ahead and list out the common weapon skills. I seriously can’t believe you actually linked this…
Imagine if it could do 100% of its damage at range.
We had that imagination it was explosive shot MM hunter. Now it has its own definition and hope it just gets improved not changed. I love they made it pure melee simply cause it was a hybrid spec at the begging with. Yes it was ranged but talents where focused to improve traps and melee abilities. They didn’t had any talent back then in survival tree that improves ranged abilities.
But since new devs with this new generation mindset are in charge, I wouldn’t be surprised that they ruin allot of specs including SV hunter
Class Information
Hunters battle their foes at a distance or up close, commanding their pets to attack while they nock their arrows, fire their guns, or ready their polearms. Though their weapons are effective at short and long ranges, hunters are also highly mobile. They can evade or restrain their foes to control the arena of battle.
From https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/classes/hunter
That thing you linked doesnt even recognize Goblin as a Hunter race and yours is a Goblin so that’s awkward lol