Great! So we can just take Explosive Shot from MM and give it something else to compensate, and give the original version to SV instead of Raptor Strike. Then we can replace Carve with Multi-Shot and voila: ranged SV. Mostly the same gameplay as it is currently just 100% ranged instead of ~70%. Sounds good?
Take it to the Hunter discord or these forums.
In any online argument there’s literally a 0% chance either side will convince one another so it’s all about convincing the reader which side is better. There is no 3rd party reader in a discord conversation so it’s entirely pointless. I wasted enough time with Scabber’s meltdown a while ago. It would especially be a waste of time with the likes of you. You can’t even confront the fact that you’re directly contradicting your own past videos.
It’s worth pointing out that the majority of people who enjoy Survival and want it to remain melee are melee class mains. It proves what Hazzikostas already pointed out: Survival is made for melee players, not Hunters. Grats on being an exception to that rule, though.
You seem to misunderstand. I care about the Survival discussion. I don’t care about people complaining about me being too mean or whatever. You said something really stupid and I mocked it. End of story. I don’t care for post after post trying to tell me I’m terrible for mocking something really stupid. If you don’t want to be mocked don’t say stupid things.
Now who’s taking something too literally? “I would do it again” generally implies whether one regrets something or not and if they could redo or undo it given the chance.
Apparently I speak for quite a lot of people given how many outright avoid Survival and given how many quit the class or the game over it.
No, it’s not His argument is “every spec has changed so Survival is not different”. Like many bad arguments that ignores extent.
Survival was changed to a much greater extent than any other spec. For most other specs in the game you can draw a line from the start of the game to now and see how it iteratively evolved each step of the way. For the few that it’s difficult e.g. Demonology and Outlaw in Legion you can still see how it’s derivative of the original class and spec and it still preserves the same role. Survival, however, basically changes to an entirely different class in Legion; completely unrecognisable.
BFA’s Survival remake helped that but it’s still drastically changed. No other spec has ever gone from ranged-to-melee or melee-to-ranged. It’s also the only spec that really loses a core strength of the class with such impact. Even with the other classes that have melee and ranged DPS specs (Druid, Shaman) it’s done in classes that aren’t cemented as ranged via a ranged weapon and it makes much more sense given how those classes are themed and introduced. With hunters it makes no sense at all to start with a ranged weapon and then abandon it at level 10.
You should have no problem with making it a proper ranged spec then, right? Why stick to a melee weapon?
You’re right. Survival isn’t a bad spec just because I don’t like it. It’s a bad spec because almost no Hunters at all like it.
Most Hunters aren’t interested in melee. What did you expect? Don’t force melee specs into ranged classes. Especially don’t do it by removing existing ranged specs. Survival deserves 200% of the hate and derision it gets.
