Is summoning an inferno in low-level zones griefing?

[Shimy-khadgar]

I fail to see how summoning an infernal to kill the opposite faction is anything but the textbook defenition of role playing in the massively multiplayer online role playing game World of Warcraft.

[Kneenibbler-kirin-tor]

If a level 60 alliance warlock goes to Goldshire and summons an inferno and then releases it, allowing the inferno to run around and kill NPCs is that against the ToS?

We’ve had a bit of discussion about killing quest NPCs of the opposite faction. But what about your own faction?

It seems like it would be considering griefing would it not? Curious as to what others think.

Anyone who can’t handle a little griefing can’t handle classic.

[Bloodscent-bleeding-hollow (Bloodscent)]

So you can just go to the starting zone, summon an inferno and then have it kill new players right as they make a character?

I doubt 2019 Blizzard is going to find that funny.

This kind of thing was fairly common in vanilla. It was part of the charm.

[Bloodscent-bleeding-hollow (Bloodscent)]

But, see, by any definition, someone doing this is simply being a jerk. Period. It’s not even PvP “It’s red it’s dead” STV corpse camping. It’s simple sadism affecting others to no tangible gain within the game. You’re causing suffering for others. Jerk. Capital J Jerk.

Honestly, stay away from pvp servers… you will hate them. Wow is made of jerks.

[Prufinnor-wyrmrest-accord]

@Luuni-area-52

Well I haven’t talked about the ToS. I think it’d be foolish to expect them to use 2006 ToS when it comes to rules for Classic.

@Eloraell-moon-guard

But yeah, they were in Vanilla at 1.12 in 2006, Blizzard already said so, and no-one has given a compelling reason why they need to be removed.

Give a compelling reason why infernals in low level areas need to be removed, Lunni.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

Thrall was right all along. Demons are a corrupting influence. It’s reached the point where we’re acting as though summoning them to murder younglings is acceptable.

You all sicken me.

/gigglesnort

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Summoning an Infernal in low level areas is perfectly acceptable, as long as you’re willing to suffer whatever consequences Blizzard decides to hand out… just like it was in Vanilla.

[Hathosse-moknathal]

It is perfectly fine. I did so from 2006 to 2011 on Stormrage server, probably over a hundred times, without so much as a single warning. Now, you could argue that I somehow got lucky and never had a GM punish me for killing those countless new players, but it would not be a sound argument.

[Shimy-khadgar]

Just hearing people are upset at the idea of this happening brings a smile to my face

[anon26013520]

@Luuni-area-52

But for low level players there is zero way for them to play around it.

I have included a diagram of possible low level plays against an infernal.

[Zonkabonk-blackrock]

How bad do you have to hate an npc to make a bunch of warlocks just to keep it dead indefinitely like this?

[Slendy-sargeras]

The Retail Rats crying always brings a smile to my face

[Silhart-nagrand]

If I got killed by a rampant Infernal as a lowbie, I wouldn’t even be mad. This is the kind of fun nonsense I’m looking forward to in Classic.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Sandbox worlds are what made Classic great, and what have ground Retail into the theme park House of Horrors ride it is now.

[Zonkabonk-blackrock]

If I got killed by a rampant Infernal as a lowbie, I wouldn’t even be mad. This is the kind of fun nonsense I’m looking forward to in Classic.

Oh no I got sent to the newbie graveyard!

walks for 20 seconds

Whew I made it

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

How bad do you have to hate an npc to make a bunch of warlocks just to keep it dead indefinitely like this?

Farmer Salen has been hoarding hops. I’ll show him what’s for!

[Zaldera-moon-guard]

Oh what TF is this?

No it’s not grefing. It’s not against the ToS therefor it isn’t griefing. Griefing is a term that’s always linked to some system of rules in which the act goes against said rules.

If you want to raid Goldshire and summon your infernals, go right the hell ahead and feel no guilt nor pity.

May your cup runneth over with the blood of your insignificant enemies and be dammed the consequences.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Oh no I got sent to the newbie graveyard!

Oh man are you in for a surprise. Go on… die near Fizzle. I dare you

mutters 20 seconds HAH!

[Shimy-khadgar]

At least we know night elves don’t have to worry about being ganked at their starting area… no one wants to go there

[Chroníc-emerald-dream]

Trust me, literally nothing will happen. Not even a “hey stop that”