I disagree. I feel like when they introduce a new class they have to pay closer attention to balancing. I mean look at BFA. No new class and class design is worse than Vanilla…
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Certainly is a convenient excuse. One that was used in WoD already. My gripe is it isn’t really a valid excuse. You can’t just shovel garbage at us with the excuse that “well it’s trash because we’re working on future content!”
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Not saying I like it, just saying we better get something out of it later with such a skinny patch 8.3.
But were things any better balanced in Legion? Or WotLK for that matter.
I don’t feel they were.
I don’t think Shadowlands should be viewed as an expansion, rather, I think it is a litmus test for the design of wow going forward and future expansions. A lot of the features I find interesting… don’t pertain to Shadowlands, but rather how they plan to handle old content for new players.
The biggest thing that stood out for me with legion is you had the leveling zones, then suramar, then the broken shore, AND then argus. BFA didn’t have a suramar and I don’t think Shadowlands will as well. So it’s not really an expansion. It’s either a make or break redesign of the game experience.
If shadowlands can build on the corrupted gear concept and remove the pain points of visions and essences and learn from those systems… there’s potential for the game to move in the right direction.
Both were balanced better. Sure there were outliers (Rets could kill many classes in a burst, DKs were OP in WoLK). But most the classes for both expansions were fun to play. BFA slapping GCDs on everything made everything slow and clunky and STILL couldn’t balance despite slowing the combat considerably.
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I guess I disagree. I think they were balanced just as bad. I actually quit WotLK because of poor class design combined with what I feel was horrible raiding.
Legion I found class balance to be just as bad.
If you want to talk class design, that is a bit different from class balance.
I’d argue BOTH for wolk and legion were substantially better than BFA though. I mean you disagree so nothing we can do about that.
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I’d argue that BFA feels worse than Legion in class balance because we have harder content that highlights min/maxing more.
As a shaman in WotLK it was one of the worst periods of WoW for me personally.
Basing anything off the limited information about an expansion that was announced by saying “it is very early and we do not know what systems will being introduced until later in the developmemt process” that is half a year from being released as beta would be a very naive thing to do.
Besides, why do we want new systems anyway? All modern systems, caches, AP, incursions etc have all been fairly poor anyway.
Remove the chaff and even if you don’t add new systems the game is already improved.
I would argue that Burning Crusade at least felt like there was a new class, as it allowed alliance to be shamen and horde to be paladin.
This. BFA will be great, it’s just blizzcon. Just wait til the beta.
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Ever think that maybe not all the information was released about the expansion yet? Blizz commented on finalized systems, but were very vague about most of the details. They could be leaving out of whole lot of information.
Have you seen the Venthyr?
Try reading the OP…
At least read before you make a redundant comment that’s already been acknowledged. It makes you look myopic. Thanks!
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All I can say is don’t be an idiot and pre-purchase Shadowlands.
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Do people not know what correlation is not causation is?
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the content we’ve been shown so far really doesn’t make shadowlands feel like a proper expansion but more of a patch.
I don’t believe a new class is necessary to make an expac cool. In fact I don’t want a new one. I want some new exciting stuff and better class design. I love the classes we have, I want improvement of them.
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I’m kinda embarrassed I didn’t notice the incorrect spelling. 