Still quoting this after I linked you the CS post about how the people running the game are enforcing this policy?
No come back for this and too fragile to admit you were wrong
Still quoting this after I linked you the CS post about how the people running the game are enforcing this policy?
No come back for this and too fragile to admit you were wrong
So how are people supposed to know which is distrustful and what is trustworthy?
How are people supposed to know what RMT gold looks like? If Tim puts up a 35g bid and Jeff a 45g bid and no one offers more… are either of them RMT gold purchasers? How can you tell?
You talk about it’s not a supported system, yet it’s just ML… so how isn’t it?
Yet you want to get rid of people who somehow received purchased gold… if you’ve used an AH, trade or GDKP… you HAVE purchased gold or something botted for. So let’s ban them as well alright?
Post it all you want.
1 case, in how many thousands? I don’t agree with blizzard and if they start doing this on a mass scale for receiving unknown RMT gold… they better ban at least 95% of the game, because purchased gold is EVERYWHERE.
This is the same exact stance they had on multiboxing. While they allowed it, they did not support it, and they eventually changed how it would be done by banning programs that made it easier.
you just ask for proof of them not buying gold like you usually do? or you can trust them
do you know tim and jeff? what are they like? are they on enough to farm gold through quests and such? why are you asking me the questions that you are supposed to be asking yourself and figuring out who you trust to take to a gdkp?
there’s a blue post stating it’s not a supported system, that is how it isn’t “just ML”
I didn’t say “somehow received purchased gold” I said those involved in a gdkp with an RMTer. Don’t put words in my mouth to try and make a point because then your point is invalid.
The whole “if you banned bots and gold buyers, the game would die” argument is so absurd.
That’s not my argument… way to twist my words, just because you wanna ban innocent people, doesn’t mean I want to see them banned. No one should be banned just for being in a GDKP or unknowingly receiving RMT gold… people should be banned for purchasing RMT gold. Yet I bet you get a lot of use out of the AH… because the AH isn’t loaded with the history of RMT transactions right? They didn’t use RMT to get their professions up or a bot that farmed for days to sell you mats.
Selling me materials at cost or buying my materials at cost is irrelevant because it’s the same value traded away from myself for the expected return regardless of if the other side of the transaction is RMT or not. If someone on the AH is selling items for far beyond their worth and they’re being bought by a known seller or buyer, then they are likely to be banned.
Similar in the case of GDKP, if an account flagged for RMT spends big, the accounts that receive the gold are likely to be banned because they took that RMT gold. There’s far far more variance in GDKP prices than in the AH, so it’s not as simple to set baseline reasonable prices for given items, thereby making it more likely you’ll catch smoke for getting traded RMT gold in a GDKP than via the AH.
The AH is not equivalent. The only way to ensure you’re not banned because of GDKP is to only run with people you trust not to have bought gold. All the same I think GDKP’s days are numbered.
It’s not equivalent because it doesn’t support your narrative. RMT is RMT… if you take one, you take all. I’m still waiting on the proof that every single GDKP has a bunch of RMT andys… not pretty words, but hard proof. GDKP is as old as vanilla, the days it has are going strong.
I’m going to buy enough gold to buy everything on my realm’s AH.
It’s not equivalent because it doesn’t support your narrative
It’s not equivalent for several reasons, some of which I explained (and you ignored) above, but ultimately the AH is a supported transaction, and GDKP while allowed, is not supported.
I’m still waiting on the proof that every single GDKP has a bunch of RMT andys… not pretty words, but hard proof.
This doesn’t need to be proven.
Again
The only way to ensure you’re not banned because of GDKP is to only run with people you trust not to have bought gold.
Simple as that. I don’t like GDKP, but it’s allowed (“for now”, per the last blue post, days numbered I tell ya), yet all the same, if you routinely receive illicit gold through it, or advertise in the wrong channel, you’re gonna get a ban.
Bold to admit cheating on the forums. We’ll see how that works for you.
Here is a perfect analogy to GDKP. Imagine that it is not illegal to sell human organs, but a person can only sell one of their own, that they have either a spare of (kidney) or are doing so in advance of the time of their death in order to pass the money from the transaction on to family or a charity etc. However selling other peoples organs is illegal, but to prove that you would have to run tests to verify the legitimacy, but that is only enforced if someone reports a seller as illicit. What will happen is organ harvesting by bad actors in order to turn a profit. Sure that is illegal, but within these rules that are analogous to GDKP, the bad actors would get away with it more often than not. How do you prevent the illegal harvesting that is harming people and also harming the organ market for honest sellers? You make all organ sales illegal. You make it where the transfer of organs from one person to another only happens through state sanctioned bodies, i.e. hospitals and medical services that are government regulated. This does not wipe out the problem people, but it significantly reduces the amount that is happening, and makes it easy to target those people as any reports of organ sales can be invesigated on a basis of “is” or “is not” happening with very simple reactions accordingly. If it “is” then they go to prison, if it “is not” those people are not sent to prison after they have been found to have done nothing wrong.
Blizz can trace your gold, if GDKPs are illegal there is one less avenue clogging their investigative process, and simplifying that process. No longer are they looking to see if the gold in the GDKP was illicit or not, they are simply determining if a GDKP happened at all, if it did, bans, if not, no bans.
I haven’t done anything (yet) what are you the thought police?
I’m not the anything police.
It’s not equivalent for several reasons, some of which I explained (and you ignored) above, but ultimately the AH is a supported transaction, and GDKP while allowed, is not supported.
Lol. Not supported, yet it is just ML?
This doesn’t need to be proven.
Again
Yes it does if you’re going to ban people.
Hopefully you never have any power… you’d most definitely abuse it.
Simple as that. I don’t like GDKP, but it’s allowed (“for now”, per the last blue post, days numbered I tell ya), yet all the same, if you routinely receive illicit gold through it, or advertise in the wrong channel, you’re gonna get a ban.
So you should be banned for AH purchasing, gotcha.
I don’t care about what your idea of what the equivalence is.
Always report GDKP and summon spam in the LFG channel. Both just exist to promote and soak up gold buying.
Yes it does if you’re going to ban people.
Hopefully you never have any power… you’d most definitely abuse it.
I’m not banning anyone. I’m relaying Blizzard’s policy to you with links to supporting evidence, I might add. If you wanna ignore it and get banned, frankly, I’m overjoyed. You’re extremely unpleasant.
So you should be banned for AH purchasing, gotcha.
I don’t care about what your idea of what the equivalence is.
Facts and the company are on my side, so go ahead and do what you’re gonna do.
GDKP is soon to go the way of multiboxing
I’m not banning anyone. I’m relaying Blizzard’s policy to you. If you wanna ignore it and get banned, frankly, I’m overjoyed. You’re extremely unpleasant.
Yet there is what… 1 confirmed case of this?
GDKP is soon to go the way of multiboxing
To get rid of GDKP you gotta get rid of ML… because it’s still going to get used even if outlawed (which it never will be) as long as ML exists. I don’t see classic andys being very happy their beloved ML is removed.
Oh and multiboxing is still incredibly common.
Yet there is what… 1 confirmed case of this?
Deny all you want! There were more people in the thread saying they got banned the same way btw.
To get rid of GDKP you gotta get rid of ML… because it’s still going to get used even if outlawed (which it never will be) as long as ML exists. I don’t see classic andys being very happy their beloved ML was removed.
They are smart people. If banned it will be implemented in a way that makes it unappealing to do. Same as multiboxing, which isn’t explicitly banned, but the 3rd party software that does the heavy lifting for you is banned, thereby making it extremely inconvenient for any normal player to do.
Oh and multiboxing is still incredibly common.
Relative to before? No. Not remotely. Even if you count people following their leveling account with their 25 as multiboxing.
Deny all you want! There were more people in the thread saying they got banned the same way btw.
Thousands upon thousands of GDKPs and 1 confirmed case. Sounds like they’re really enforcing their own rule.
They are smart people. If banned it will be implemented in a way that makes it unappealing to do. Same as multiboxing, which isn’t explicitly banned, but the 3rd party software that does the heavy lifting for you is banned, thereby making it extremely inconvenient for any normal player to do.
The day they’re banned, they’ll still be active and for every day after that… as long as ML exists.
Relative to before? No. Not remotely. Even if you count people following their leveling account with their 25 as multiboxing.
I see them all the time is stone talon farming the harvesters, because I go and gank horde there… seen a couple roaming ashenvale as well.