Is manual multiboxing okay?

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Yep.

My MB setup when I had 2 accounts in TBCC was to bang out 3+ mans for a still classic 1 to 60 char. When /who is showing your char as the only one in all of teldrassil…you can’t make groups well. And thus the 62 swung on buy. Dead 3 man boss. Lets go find some others…

Dabbled in some some retail playings as well. Dungeon quests in say stockade? Well level 11 char its your lucky day…in comes the 60.

edit: side note for those not leveling recently leveling LFD is all over. My monk is in legion. My dungeon pops all over. I was in Blackrock, ZF, some other legacy dungeon I forgot and then it was randomatic legion. I’d like to close out a few legion dungeon quests. If lfd would actually give me the dungeons I could do that. IF…

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So you are admitting on the forums to abusing the ingame report function just because you don’t like something? You can ruin the economy with 1 toon on one account. The “muh economy” gets old when you go out to farm and all you see is bots. You may see one person on a shredder… also what about the big goblins that artificially lower flask potion consumable prices so herbs / ore / leather go down artificially so they can buy them up buy the flasks up then hold the market?

Yall argued about people boxing ruining the economy or "omg I can’t pvp’ well get to grouping up and get to farming. I made a mill ah flipping in a few days with zero farming on one character.

News flash economy is actually worse cause now goblins are creating monopolies and bots have zero competition now. So unless you have gold, on a high pop server or a medium pop server you’re done.

And ruin others experiences? I get more salt from whining people on 1 account with the “get gud” mentality than I ever have from a boxer. I box and reason I started is someone helped me out boxing and I loved that feeling. They had the means to help those around them. I help people with quests if they need it. Getting ganked? I got you fam. Someone of the opposite faction stuck on a quest wm on or off? I go on my ally toon on account 2 whisper them and help them and sometimes I log off my toons and play with that person if they want a quest buddy. They enjoy it. New players on my server get 500g 4 32 slot bags and a cupcake.

Edit: I also rp and collect transmog /mounts. Finally got the pink arden moth that refused to drop out of the paragon boxes. Two toons at exalted later… seriously that moth hated me.

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We is a pretty big term. I know that hating on multiboxers is what the cool kids do these days, but I doubt that 75% of them could explain the difference between legitimate multiboxers and botters. You also don’t speak for everyone, or more importantly for Blizzard, who says that it’s fine as long as there’s no streamlining, outside hardware or software or automation.

That’s not how that works.

You can report a multiboxer a billion times, but as long as they’re not doing anything to mirror key presses or using hardware or software workarounds, nothing will happen to them.

I’m having a hard time thinking of how I’m “ruining someone’s experience” by having an extra character on auto-follow as I do my Callings and Korthia dailies. I definitely don’t feel like I’m inconveniencing anyone when one of the characters dies because she ran into a tiny ledge and a mob pathed into her and killed her. If anything, I’m inconveniencing myself for the sake of ultimately saving a bit of time, and being able to argue with myself in RP.

Mirroring button presses is banned now. If someone is manually beating you down in five individual windows, playing all five characters at a time, then I kind of feel like they deserve some respect for being that skilled.

I feel like you should probably understand what multiboxing actually is, how it’s done, what the advantages and disadvantages of it are, and what the rules actually are before you go making broad declarations that are plainly wrong.

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Oh yes it is. I seen it with my own eyes.

My husband used to MB and all he did was play in window mode and manually click between 5 windows. He’s been playing for 16 years on the same account and never used shady third party software. He immediately uninstalled ISBoxer back in Nov when Blizzard said it wasn’t allowed.

When they banned him, they didn’t even tell him what it was for. It wasn’t until until they dropped it down to a 6 month suspension that they said “cheating.” That had us scratching our heads because he didn’t participate in any activities that would be considered cheating (like win trading.) So we appealed several times and another GM said “exploiting.” Again, scratched our heads. He never exploited anything like rapidly spawning mobs or jumping through a wall. Then he took his complaint to the Better Business Bureau. By this time he’s not trying to get his account back, he just wanted answers. So after some back and forth with them through the BBB, Blizzard down right called him a bot. We were floored. He never had botting software on his computer and nether one of us even know where to get that kind of stuff.

So after a lot of discussion between ourselves and threads that I have read on the GD, we came to a conclusion on what happened. We know he was getting reported several times a day. People would say really nasty things to him and follow him around taking screen shots. We know this because like I said, these people were telling us that’s what they were doing in between cussing him. He mostly ignored them but if someone got too bad he would just link the article from Blizzard’s own website that said MB was fine as long as it was manual.

I started asking some these people harassing my husband if they were getting “the letter.” People on the GD was either complaining or bragging about this letter they would receive from Blizzard that said “thank you for your report, we have taken action against this account” or something to that effect. The problem is this letter was a lie. My husband wasn’t getting in trouble, even though the letter said he was. From Nov to March all he was doing was clicking through 5 windows and that’s not against the rules. These people started figuring out that what the letter was telling them and what was actually happening (or not happening) did not match.

So the conclusion we came up with is they just banned him anyways then dropped it down to a 6 month suspension. They knew he wasn’t using hardware or software to streamline MB. That’s why they accused him of three different things and never gave us a specific reason. Cheating, exploiting and botting are not interchangeable. Usually they will tell you what they caught you doing, even if they don’t give you a time, location or what program they know you were using. If you bought gold, they’ll tell you “hey we’re banning you for being gold.” If you’re a bot, they’ll tell you they’re banning for being a bot (my husband was never given this answer in a ticket, only when he was arguing with Blizzard through the BBB.)

So, I’m not telling this story in an attempt to convince people that my husband is innocent. I know 99% of the people on GD think he’s guilty so I just don’t argue with them about it any more. It’s pointless because for one thing I wouldn’t know how to prove them wrong and even if I did, I would get in trouble for discussing a penalty. I’ll probably get in trouble for this but I’m passed the point of caring. Anyways, I’m posting this as a warning. If you MB and you get reported enough times, there is a chance they will take action even if you do nothing wrong. I’ve read the stories on other websites and like I said, I seen it with my own eyes. Don’t do it if you care about your account.

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I’ve definitely been following the saga of your husband’s run-in with banning here and in the CS forum. I know that you are very specifically invested in the theory that he couldn’t have possibly done anything wrong, that Blizzard banned your husband just because he was reported a lot, and that multiboxers are in danger of losing their accounts for normal play, and I imagine that you need to believe that because otherwise you’d need to believe that he was actually up to something shady when he swore up and down to you that he wasn’t. I get needing to believe loved ones above all available evidence.

I’m just saying…your husband’s case was reviewed, and according to the blues, while what he was doing wasn’t purely exploitative so they changed it to a 6 month ban, botting/exploitation was going on from the account according to their evidence. Not people’s reports, from the evidence that their programs gave them.

You’re not doing anyone any favors in trying to get people to believe information that the game staff has told you outright, repeatedly, that it isn’t accurate.

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Maybe it’s because I played on his computer and know what he had installed on it. Maybe if I knew he was actually doing something shady, I would have pointed and laughed at him for being dumb.

You have zero way of knowing this but that’s fine. I used to be like you and assumed everyone was guilty too.

p.s. I gain nothing from telling his story, btw. Nobody knows him here or in game. He’s never playing a Blizzard game again so this isn’t even about getting his account back. I am honestly trying to warn people.

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If I see you, I will report you.

Multiboxers and Botters (they’re the same thing) are ruining the economy.

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Sounds crazy to me . 5 accounts… :scream:

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EMA= streamlining and that will get you banned

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Care to explain how someone manually switching screens and manually casting spells (which according to gms is ok to do) is the same as botting, using an program to literally run the character while you sleep work do whatever else? Like no human input just set it and forget it, go take a dump while it does whatever.

By your logic, alt tabbing is botting? O_o #alttabbingisbotting

If I’m out and I get harassed from someone I’m going to put them on ignore and if they keep whispering report for harassment, which at that point they are bypassing the ignore feature which is against the rules. Just cause you don’t like something that is in the rules (long as it is done manually) doesn’t mean you can report someone. If you want to report someone and let blizzard figure it out, go ahead. I’m sure that person put in enough gm tickets with thier whole process in May out of worry, so blizz knows thier process. Or me that records myself manually boxing to report bots to send to hacks@blizzard.com

I will be responded with a, “yes it does it ruins the economy” post when in actually the solo account “I uNdeRCuTt tO sElL fASTeR” and big ah goblins ruin it more than anyone else because the first feeds the second along with the bots. Best way to keep stuff low, buy it up, hold a monopoly then list stuff to the point of no one wanting to post crafted items so the materials go lower so you reset and relist the items, crafted and raw.

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Don’t defend the disgusting cheaters.

Their behavior is reprehensible!

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So you cant answer a question? My “discusting behavior” of helping people is disgusting to you? What about people helping others with arena rating? Transmog collecting? How about giving a care about the community… but yeah good come back. #alttabbingisbotting

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Did you happen to notice there is a pinned blue post at the top of this forum titled “Policy Update for Input Broadcasting” explaining the rules about mboxing and software relative to their use?

Just in case you didn’t see it, it says:

“We will now additionally prohibit the use of all software and hardware mechanisms to mirror commands to multiple World of Warcraft accounts at the same time, or to automate or streamline multi-boxing in any way.”

That’s sort of clear I would have thought.

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Looking back, I think this post got necroed. I went to look back through and some of the dates are old. And yeah it’s straight forward and there has been a lot of good discussions all over on the topic.

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I quest and camp rares on multiple characters. How does that affect your personal loot or personal experiences?

  1. Turn off warmode.
  2. Stop attacking players that are minding their own business. That lead character is probably the best geared. Acting like a complete jerk can have meaningful consequences.
  3. Why do you want to play a game where they can ban you for reaching some limit on false reports against you?
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I can balance a pine cone on my nose while reciting the national anthem. One day I asked myself- Am I doing this because I can or because I should? What’s the point?

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I know you’re probably being sarcastic with the pinecone thing but… that sounds interesting not gonna lie I would enjoy seeing someone do that.

SORRY SQUIRREL MOMENT

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It reminds me of linux OS - which has no point other then to brag that you know how to use linux, and that gets old fast. Just play the game.

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:roll_eyes:
nonsense.
EVEN IF the few boxers out there farming were doing what you claim the second they stopped, the prices would skyrocket and WE WOULD ALL be out there farming the crap till the prices fell anyway.
Lord…the scapegoating in here is a joke.

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buy a websters, lmao.
There are RULES to this game…if they AINT being broken it AINT cheating :rofl:

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