Is M+ dead?

Yes being balanced sucks. Such a shame.

Don’t worry, we were busy exiling non-guardian druids in 10.2.5, and non-demon hunters in s3/s4.

If you lower it to a 10 you probably get someone. Nobody really wants to do 11s when you don’t any better rewards past 10.

Yes, but my point is it’s shoveled into M+ with the timer and affixes and everything.

Megadungeons are played for the first patch when you can indulge in the whole thing, and after that participation for them falls off a steep cliff.

I wish they stayed as one uniform experience that remained popular, similar to raids. But 5-man.

Nope, you can still do megadungeon without timer after it’s been added to m+. It’s the only way to do it after the season that has it is over.

Participation in dungeons has always ended days after it’s released, particularly max level dungeons. It’s been a thing since vanilla.

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So when a tank dies and gets treated like trash and gets told to off himself because he died that’s part of the balance? Because when tanks didn’t die, they got less abuse which meant more tanks. People like you are the reason any good tank with a functioning brain tanks for their friends/guild and leaves the rest of you to complain.

Yeah, but good luck making a group when it’s not ‘current’ anymore, nor has the same better gear incentives that M+ hands out.

You believe it would have any participation if m+ wasn’t a thing?

So better off having no one die because someone might insult them for whatever reason.

I say the game should not need tanks or healers. And no one should take damage at all.

Oh, and no dps checks or timers.

Please uninstall WOW and install HOTS, such game already exists.

Simply put, it doesn’t have the same carrot that M+ has outside of when they are new.

I love how megadungeons have their own achievments and titles and mounts.

Just wish it stayed as a whole megadungeon, and never a part of M+.

That’s it.

I think participation would remain high if it wasn’t broken down into M+.

If it was the only way to experience these.

More would do them.

Go play a mobile game friend. I think that’s what you are looking for.

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I don’t think they are Dead…but a lot of folks are playing Delves now…

Where are the tanks? It’s boring and they can’t tune it properly for the other tanks

Not going to Reroll

They are here, just tanking for everyone but faux and his kin.

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No, it’s you not understanding the basis of your complaint.

Failure can lead to some people abusing others. (in your case, the tank.) To truly fix that, you need to remove the possibility of failure. And if you don’t do that, why is it any better if it happens to floor pov DPS?

Because there are two other dps to carry you. If the tank dies it’s over gg that’s all she wrote key is dead. It’s that simple, one mistake from the tank and the key is bricked. There was no reason for tank nerfs when it was already a high stress role.

You’re literally fine with dps getting verbal abuse? What is WRONG with you?

Yikes.

Doubt that. Max level dungeons have always sharply dropped days after release. M+ has little to do with that.

Except that’s the exact opposite of what happens, they get none, because the group can survive without a dps, but it’s bricked without the tank. There is a huge difference, tank dies no one has fun, 1 dps dies, 4 people continue to have fun.

Pre-M+, that wasn’t the case.

I’d still be tanking for folks if M+ didn’t exist.

It’s just not fun to tank.