Is M+ dead?

The data I’m looking at is the actual week on week keys. So far we have less keys ran overall in S1 TWW vs DF S3, and we are on a downward trend. Raider io compiles this data. If we keep going down every week or two as we have been, we will have less overall keys ran than DF S3 by a wide margin. Its whether or not the current plateau at 1.55 mill keys per week holds, but I don’t believe it will.

As far as DFA goes, the sample size is a bit of a problem I admit looking at that some more. I will concede that. It’s probably good for dragonflight seasons by now, but the current season yes is way too small.

S3 also has the deleted range 0-10.

And it didn’t have delves.

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It’s not even that it’s too small it’s wildly out of date.

  • DFA is populating a total of 1,163,167 accounts world wide.
    • We know that’s inaccurate.
  • DFA is populating a total of 3,351,149 total characters world wide.
    • We know that’s wildly inaccurate.
    • There’s more than 3.3 million unique Paladin characters logged in RIO.

https://www.dataforazeroth.com/characters/US/Dalaran/S%C3%B4sari

  • 2 months old data
  • 587 ilvl when I’m currently 630
  • Says my account-wide achievements are disabled when it’s clearly not.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/dalaran/s%C3%B4sari/achievements/feats-of-strength/dungeons

There’s always going to be attrition during a season and week to week differences don’t really matter if the overall numbers are ahead.

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DF S3 is so far ahead right now up until week 8 I don’t think TWW is going to beat it. I’ll eat crow later on that one, but it’s massively ahead right now.

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Dude the guy just above just debunked that…

Yeah, I mean we won’t really know until the end. Even still its disingenuous to compare them as apples to apples without acknowledging that DF S3 was logging M+2-10 which are no longer being logged now since it essentially started with M+12 and up. I’m sure there are plenty of players sticking to delves or M0 now.

There’s also the issue of RIO and Blizzard API only logging the top 500 runs per dungeon per server so the very bottom keys on populated servers don’t get counted. Which in a system that starts at previous M+12 could be a lot of uncounted runs.

There’s a lot of nuances to comparing numbers and it’s a lot more than just putting numbers next to each other.

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Who, Soso?
That person makes data and lies in each post.
Its just basic trolling, they cannot debunk anything.

No, Sosari definitely debunked the part about DFA that I think that person was referring to. Credit where credit is due. They’re also at least polite about it and I don’t think that qualifies as trolling even if they’re wrong like I was (edit: not saying they are wrong, just in the hypothetical). We can have reasonable discussions here and they’re engaging in one.

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Soso polite?, they try to doxx and lie and belittle me yesterday,
that person anything but polite.

No it’s not.
I did 3 keys last night, 7pm PST to 10pm.
Nobody likes GB.
Tanks are scarce.
It was Monday, the worst day to do keys.
People were doing the known easier keys for quick 10s.

Imagine being so out of touch you threw a +11 GB in the mix and said “HmMM m+ mUsT bE dEaD gUys!”

How about DF seasons 1, 2, and 4?

Season 1 was doing better up until week 7 which is where the data stopped that I was looking at. It had one really bad week where things tanked hard, but I think that was bursting. Season 2 yep was way worse. Percentages wise s1 tanked harder than tww s1 is week on week.

No idea what happened with season 2. I actually liked that one a whole lot. Season 4 I blame on it being a Fated Raid season or possibly the feeling that the expansion was just over. Season 4 was another favorite of mine mostly because those seasons are always where classes feel the best to play to me due to the extra secondaries. I find the game vastly more enjoyable with 40%+ haste than I do with 25% or less.

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And remember those seasons had keys 2-9 and no delves providing gear.

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Doxx? I brought up your alts in a way that was directly tied to the discussion.

Is that information public?
That is doxx attempt, you could check my achievements, and it was not related to discussion, I never claimed anything that you need to check my alts for.

It is if I found it through Blizzard’s API.

You were making definitive statements about Mythic raiding and checking your toons shows that you are not in a position to do so.

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I am in position to comment on anything that I want,
and some forum trolls being carried in M+ becuase of their spec definitely wont stop me.

Just one more time,
information about ones alts is not public info,
that is sites which correlate specific infor like achives or pets link them together, that is classic doxx.

Also you would knoe better that mythic raiding kills reflected as achieves, so you didnt even need to doxx my alts in the first place.

This only applies to feats, not individual kills which would only reflect on the character being looked at.

You can post anything you want, likewise, I am in the same position to call out bad takes.

Carried in what way? I was playing this toon from the start when we were at the bottom of representation.

M+ has died many times, but some damn healer keeps ressing it.

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