Is LFR heading for the chopping block?

Did he get axed from Blizzard? because the story I remember was he got tired of the terrible pay and such that blizzard does. (it’s not competitive) And moved on to a better opportunity.

I had the displeasure of doing LFR on my third shaman and I’ll tell you what.

It was the most unemployable and miserable experience I’ve ever had. I wholeheartedly believe LFR does more damage to potential raiders (normal and above) than good. It’s an awful place where nobody cares and anyone who tries to take command gets flamed.

I think it needs to be SERIOUSLY overhauled because I refuse to believe what it’s become was the initial inspiration for LFR. It’s tragic.

I think LFR on paper is a great options for casual players to see content. But not like this, I’d support LFR more if you queued in to a scenario with 24 bots and you just do your role while a NPC Raid Leader does calls.

It’s AWFUL.

I’m a 12/12M Raid Leader who tried to take command and i got told to shut up and stop being a try-hard. Normal is 100x easier than LFR.

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Sure, if you want to believe that it’s your prerogative.

But isn’t it fair that they also get to see the game? Since they pay the exact same as those who do the other raids. It might not be legally correct, but I like to think it’s an ethical thing to do. Those who invest time AND MONEY, get the best loot and titles and mounts and story. Those who only invest money get to see the base story and that’s about it.

Most people don’t have the time to sit in the raids on tuesdays and Thursdays

I myself am in a weekend AM raid guild. That’s all the time I actually have to raid. Most of my playtime comes on the weekends and very rarely daily gaming.

And time investment wise the harder raids give the best loot. Ever since titanforging died the LFR system is perfect for those who just want to see the story. And the people who can do heroic and mythic raids can still flex with better loot and mounts and titles.

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It still is, mythic raids are still difficult. Mythic dungeons past 15 are still difficult. There are a plethora of difficult content in the game.

I just don’t like the idea of removing something for absolutely no reason.

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Flexi raid is actually really good, honestly if flexi raid was released in WotLK or Cata I would highly doubt Blizzard would have even thought of the need for LFR.

It adds so much extra freedom in raids to just take people.

I highly doubt many people run into a problem of having too many people for a flexi raid, and if anything and you do end up with over 30 people you can easily split the number in half and do the two raids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Street#:~:text=In%20November%202013%20he%20announced,Game%20Designer%20for%20Riot%20Games.

" in November 2013 he announced on his personal Facebook that he was leaving Blizzard Entertainment to pursue a “great opportunity for something new and exciting.”

On 14 January 2014, it was announced that Greg Street had become the Lead Game Designer for Riot Games"

Where is your evidence he got canned?

They already ruined by making world quests drop better gear. LFR is not the problem. Without easy queues many won’t bother with raids at all and many may just leave the game. The hate on LFR is very childish. It’s not mandatory for anyone. Just do it if you want and skip it if you don’t want to do it.

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I’m actually curious to those who only do LFR, If players were removed from the event. I.e. replaced by bots who do their role would you consider it a negative for LFR?

How many of you talk to the people in LFR and forge friendships through that? Would the removal of players lessen the experience outweigh the positives of doing the bosses much quicker?

Jeez, create incentive for raid leaders to go in there and raid lead with the power to kick players and it would be a much more enjoyable experience for all.

Personally I would like it more if that was the case. No interactions I have had with people in LFR has ever left any sort of positive feeling.

Except for this part. no. I hate raid leaders. that would get trolled so hard.

I’m not disagreeing with you in the slightest about LFR, I actually think regardless of what people say its mostly a good way for people who are too busy to experience a story, and that the rewards are such a non factor it doesn’t matter.

I just wanted to state that because its a common misconception that you are buying the game itself when really what you are buying is mostly intangibles like services, software use, and fault protections.

This is interesting, Blizzard already have a framework set in place and in the upcoming new player Island you enter a dungeon with NPC teammates.

I think this would be something that would (in my opinion) potentially fix a LOT of the issues with it.

:sob: I can see the shortfalls if it was implemented poorly, but something with a sort of checks and balances might be good.

Ah okay, haha seems we are on the same page then.

I agree legally, they aren’t entitled to see anything. But it’s just ethical and I would say good of blizz to include the non-raiding community in the story.

They are happy and continue to sub and blizz can come up with more ways to make new and more interesting raids for people to see

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You are one of the people that don’t want to give covenants a shot as is because you don’t trust that they are able to implement anything other then poorly. What makes you feel this would be different?

I think I must just get really lucky, but I’ve only ever had 2 negative experiences in LFR, and the rest were mostly positive.

Both of which were end bosses that were already at 10x determination. I’ve also added 3 or 4 people to bnet from LFR. I’m also extremely social though, I never shut up so that might play a role in it.

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I don’t remember him saying this at all … Link to video with timestamp or this is nonsense

I don’t see it going away. It’s like Pandora’s Box.

I can picture something now for say example Nzoth

  1. Fight begins, the NPC raid leader calls out We need to hit the Synapses to make Psychus vulnerable! Make sure to avoid the purple stuff(no idea the name of it) on the floor. Can give a visual/audible cue to the player.
  2. Nzoth is looking to consume us, get to the back of the room.

Blizzard is introducing a [HELPER] role into the game next expansion, other games have had this and they have been extremely successful. This isn’t related to player power, which blizzard are awful at.

It’s not a fair comparison.

For me interactions with people in LFR was either just neutral/didn’t exist. Or negative. 90-95% of the time the former. But I have never had a geniunly positive experience in LFR. a moment where I felt like it somehow made my experience better.

I think LFR people should see raids the right way: by preparing and organizing

They want everything to be too easy

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