This is the whole issue here. He can give bedroom eyes to the nuclear option all he wants, he knows it would straight up murder wow.
The casuals would go to a queuing mmo. (He might just get fired here because casuals make up about 80% of the playerbase)
Then slowly about half the midcores would follow their larger group of casual friends because in the end these are video games.
Then the raiding scene on the elite end would start to crumble because the midcores who filled pug slots wouldn’t be available which would make most elite guilds cancel more raids more often over small schedule issues, making committed raiding even more of a job.
Ion would likely get fired just for losing the casuals but Wildstar’ing this game is generally not a good idea.
Like you are going to accept everyone into your raid? Are you going to invite any LFR player into you raid? I did not think so…
Your response says plenty about the real motivation. You hate that LFR players get to call themselves raiders and that they get to see and experience the raids. So lets call the Remove LFR movement what it is: it is just a bunch of sad people trying to feel superior to another group of players by denying them access to raids.
Ion is too scared to remove LFR, despite what he wants, the general trend is toward having a LFR Heroic and Mythic versions added. (to access LFR heroic, you have to do certain dps, hps, or tanking feats to qualify, then you have to prove your self again in LFR heroic to access LFR mythic.)
As far as I’m concerned, the sole value of LFR is to allow players who either don’t have the time or the skill to complete normal raids to see the end of a patch’s plot line.
That is my point they added another level just to further divide that things some players could do. It used to be fun to even 8 months later complete the same raid level the big boys did. Now with the unique lockout it is still held ransom for the entire duration of the patch. I love difficult content but I refuse to have to deal with the asshatery and gate keeping in this game nowadays.
The dirt on that is now coming out more and more so grab some popcorn.
All it is is an automated process for spamming Trade for 20 minutes to find a PUG to do a dungeon or raid. In fact, it’s a better experience and provides players with an opportunity to engage with content.
If you want to do Mythic+ Dungeons or Normal+ raiding you still need to “spam trade chat” (LRG) to find a PUG for that content. You can even build a guild and do those things (This is how I currently enjoy raiding).
So, what exactly is it that everyone is up in arms about LFD and LFR if it’s just not about being an elitist who gets their rocks off by seeing other players struggle to get into multi-player content?
Also, the Battlegrounds and Arena queues are essentially the same thing but nobody ever complains about them. Is this just an elitist PvE player issue?
No. My complaint is when you join a HEROIC pug with someone who’s only completed lfr, they didn’t bother checking out normal and then the pug falls apart and you spend 30 min reforming.
Same as someone who completes an M0 dungeon and then jumps right to a 10 and wonders why we fail the key.
Has nothing to do with feeling superior. Has everything to do with keeping people from wasting my time by overestimating their abilities based on low level content.
Might i suggest that for the optimal experience, you don’t always try to PUG higher end content. And this is where the critisism of LFD and LFR might be more on point. It doesn’t actually prepare players for the next level of competency. In LFD/LFR you basically just have to show up for the run to be successful. In this Blizzard has failed their players. That it’s an automated queue isn’t really the issue.
We had Raid ID lockouts for all difficulties besides LFR until SOO. Nobody is gatekeeping you from content, and the lockouts have never changed for the hardest difficulty. Pugs are currently clearing 5/12M.
Which drops you in to a group which is not Mythic level content. Try again.
Replied, but not answered. You still haven’t answered the resurrection dynamic.
You seem to be enamored with a system which is completely separate from the game as it is set up to be in favor of a system which is largely older.
You can’t tell the difference between LFR and Mythic Raids? You think that a random stranger can appear in a Mythic raid without being invited? No wonder you think this would work.
Considering LFR is a counter to such gatekeeping which existed before it…
You mean like having to pass each layer of difficulty to go on to the next like some sort of attunement? This would encourage players to help each other get over those hurdles?
Is it meant to? There’s only so much hand holding the devs can do.
Recently I’ve seen more and more players with 2k+ io that don’t even know or understand M+ boss mechanics, they’ve done them dozens of times and got carried every time by more competent people without even realizing it.
Its up to the individual that chooses to push harder content to actually research before going in.
I don’t know that LFR is meant to force players to prepare for the next level of competency, but it works well as a place where players who want to, are able to practice for the next level of competency. I’m currently using LFR to help figure out and practice Mythic Maut tanking techniques, for example.