Is it wrong to Need roll on Frozen Orbs as the Tank?

Nah that’s this guy: Forum user has been stalking me and accusing me of illegal activities

He got banned too many times so he’s just liking all my posts now on a burner account as a form of petty revenge lol

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Uh huh…

You do you, buddy.

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Omg, did he create a sock puppet to upvote him. I take it back he’s not an AH, he’s just pathetic

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Running heroics pays for my repairs.

Its wrong, dont do it.

Also misleading tittle.

As a dps, if I have a problem with this kinda hard res on matts, I just don’t join the group. Simple as.

Would you be upset if I needed in a regular pug run?

Upset? No. I’d roll greed on the first, see you, and inevitably everyone else, roll need, then I’d roll need too (implying we’re doing multiple runs).

I do try to have these kinds things hammered out early though. Before everyone arrives to the dungeon a simple “how we handling orbs?” Is enough to get everyone on board, and replace everyone who isn’t.

Personally, if I have a tank who has no real reason for being there other than the orbs, I’d maybe advocate for them being priod one, then the rest are all needs. Maybe that’s naiive, assuming the tank would even want to stick around after their guaranteed orb.

I assumed everyone need rolls on orbs in pugs. this was something I learned in 2008.

personally, i think doing so just to sell the orb is petty. but to each his own. I’m sure a large number of ppl who need on them (now and in 2008) do so just to sell them anyway…and they don’t announce it ahead of time. hence everyone needs on it. :smile:

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Its a need item for everyone. As a enchanter i could make the argument that i need disenchant items but i don’t do it because its just frowned upon its a everyone item so you just greed it, unless its a upgrade for someone and they have a right to need it. Listing as a reserve is probably best, and there’s plenty of people that are just running for upgrades, but if you’re on a small server i wouldn’t you might get black balled .

On my server everyone greed’s for the most part unless it’s a super rare drop then you always get some sweaty that will ninja it so you have to greed

If you were in my group and everyone greed rolled and you needed I would write you on my list of narcissist greedy wow player with tiny pp that are unpleasant to play with.

As a Tank or healer i need on everything because i am super special. Playing with me is a privilege. I even make people pay me gold to do heroics with me. Can’t do heroics quickly without a tank. Cant do them without a healer. Or dps. Wait…

You aren’t special. Your repair bill isn’t my problem. You can’t do heroics quickly without a decent healer. Dungeons are slow without decent dps. I can heal a barely geared tank through any heroic out now and yeah, it will be slower by like 5 min. Who cares.

If you want to make a group that does all of the heroics and you say you are needing all of the frozen orbs, go for it as long as you are up front about it. If you are concerned about repair bills, roll dps. I did all the heroics in a day and it was the cost of ONE frozen orb, maybe.

I’m just saying if I’m in raid gear and the group is so bad it forced a wipe then I deserve an orb to recoup the cost.

If you’re just selling it, personally I think it’s a dick move to need on it. But on the other hand, I’m sure other people are hitting need when they’re also just planning to sell it

No, you don’t “deserve” it for that. Wipes happen, it’s part of running dungeons

Aside from the bag, your payoff for playing a tank is near-instant groups, especially for daily heroics. On most servers, tanks are still in very high demand. If you don’t consider that a fair trade-off, consider not playing a tank. There are always downsides to playing your chosen class/spec. Nobody gets it all. Dps have long wait times for groups, healers have moderate wait times, and have to put up with idiot tanks and dps taking avoidable damage then mouthing off when they die.

If you try and form a group reserving the frozen orb from the get go, then sure. There’s nothing report worthy there, its just going to be hard to find other players. But if you’re jumping into a group, and not telling them you’re going to do this until you’re in the dungeon/at the boss then yes you deserve to be reported for scummy behaviour.

There’s a difference between entitlement and creating incentive for someone to fill the role of tank for your group.

As a tank, I average, MAYBE 5g repairs for a single heroic run (AN is typically less, while Culling of Stratholme may see a higher number) The only time it becomes excessive is when we constantly wipe.

I don’t think they even have a tank. However, the greatest tanks in the world WILL die - we’re now keeping track of those statistics, ask them for theirs.

There are glitches/bugs that no player can prepare for prior to a pull.

But you don’t need it… You’ve admitted to this.

I’ll remember this when I want your mail gear that dropped, as a pally, DK or war. Enjoy tomorrow

You think I don’t roll on Priest and Druid gear? I’d expect you to roll on whatever is an upgrade.

If you think only rolling Plate gear as a Plate class is smart then you can’t possibly understand why you’d roll need on an orb

Heres how loot works in wow. If you are present for a kill of anything and an item pops up to roll need or greed, if you need an item you hit need. If your guild leaves group loot on and ashes of alar drops and everyones saying pass you are 100% in the OK to roll need. You are present and playing you are able to receive loot