I would say those f warriors, mages, locks, rogues, hunters have the dps numbers but many are lacking the utility that “meme specs” could bring to your raid.
But hey, iron rule is “your raid your rules” lol
140 achievement points on his account. So he paid for it, whoop dee doo. Just because he agrees with you it doesn’t change the fact that it is a troll account. Could be yours for all we know.
dude, just take the L and move on - you said he was a TRIAL account and TRIAL accounts are capped at level 20
and no, I don’t hide behind low level accounts - if I want to make someone feel foolish, I have no problem saying it to them on this account/toon
like right now
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These profiles don’t even work. You’re just ignorant.
It’s amazing how much you’ve contributed to the topic. Here’s an idea, have a point.
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For some reason that raid log has been wiped, or maybe it’s the only one that is bugged. Either way you can’t see it if you wanted to. I did find a pug MC run he did recently as a spellingbee, but the fights all lasted well under a minutes so that’s not a good gauge. Although he was regularly getting outDPSd by a rogue still using a lot dungeon gear. Just seems like a lot of work min/maxing a spec that still can’t top a pure dps that barely has to try.
then wait for Thursday then when this guy raids next…
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530489467140833282/582683061850865682/unknown.png
I told you I was done because you were obviously trolling. I didn’t say you “Wanted cloth over every item slot” at all, I said you had, as a “Spelladin” many pieces of epic cloth that were never intended for you.
Also, just to point it out. If you can’t accomplish something start to finish in gear intended for you, there’s something wrong.
I wanted The Hungering Cold over Manual Crowd Pummeler or Ironfoe
That silly garbage you linked me very specifically had The Hungering Cold in it and you said they were “BIS” builds.
Also, just for the record, nobody will ever bring you to a raid as a “Spelladin” It will not happen. I’m actually really glad you’re stoked about this idea because unless you’re preforming your guild, you’re gonna get laughed at.
That is, quite literally, EXACTLY the point. Something all specs of a class have and bring to a raid with them is not justification to to bring a gimped spec to fill that need unless you had to bring them regardless of their spec.
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Which is why the game evolved and won’t be in Classic.
Enjoy THE loot table, it won’t ever change.
It’s just like trying to get into a PUG group now. Most PUGs I raided in back in Vanilla refused Ret or prot paladins. People running a PUG raid want to clear the raid and they don’t really care about what spec you want to play. If you are in a casual guild that lets you play whatever you want, then go for it.
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There will be SOME issues, but I think they’ve been exaggerated a little.
A raid won’t want lots of warlocks, due to the debuff limit on mobs. But they’ll probably want at least one for utility.
Same with shadow priests.
However, ret pallies, feral and balance druids, arms warriors, and shamans will be in a pretty tough spot. Most guilds will definitely want pallies to heal or off-tank. Most guilds will want druids and shamans to heal. And most guilds will quietly chuckle at arms warriors.
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Anyone who believes this is naive… You may get to keep Classic servers at 1.12, but if you think for even a second things won’t get changed going forward if this is a success for Blizzard, you’re a crazy person that is just lying to themselves…
No Vanilla guild has ever specifically wanted a Paladin tank… Not even as off tank. Not on a regular basis anyway. Druids, Shaman and Paladins are all in the same boat “Heal or you’re a liability”
A lot of “ifs”
If it’s successful?
Hmm. I thought Classic was the invincible juggernaut and the second coming?
You need to say “WHEN it’s successful”!!!
Commit to the delusion!
umm no. they wont be changing loot tables or doing balance passes. if they think about doing that they will just do classic TBC.
they would risk the whole project doing that crap to classic and would not develop stuff for classic.
as for the druid thing, druids will make very fine tanks in a number of fights.
some specs you might add / take away from your list is:
1 shadow priest and 1 ret pally (maybe) to add.
arms to take away.
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Agreed that this may have been a prevalent attitude in Vanilla, but I’m not certain it’ll happen in the reboot. I think you’ll find that pallies will be considered to be just fine as dungeon tanks and off-tanks in raids.
Druids and shammies, however? They might have a rougher time of it, IMO.
Maybe you just want to have fun and/or you have a friend who plays a “gimped” spec?
Skilled resto druids were also fine.
I dont think anyone is gonna argue that any Hybrid healing spec was anything less than fine. That’s the problem in a sense. Their healing specs were viable and could deliver on their intended function. The other specs were in various states ranging from “Not quite good enough to be practical”, I.E. Feral Tank to “Complete and total disaster” I.E, Enhancement Shaman.
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They MIGHT do Classic TBC. But It’s probably a lot more likely that they would either shift the philosophies of Classic design onto live, or reboot the game.