Is it time for PI to die?

I think if you admit you are stupid then you are actually not… kinda like crazy people don’t know they are crazy.

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It’s also why anyone whining about their logs should be ignored.

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Or maybe just stupidity and self-awareness aren’t mutually exclusive.

That too. I’ve only ever looked at logs to see how I performed this time vs last time, or when I am trying something new to compare spell usage % to other people of the spec.

Hmm, maybe!

It’s an external buff that only one class brings that can increase an individuals DPS by over 20% (overall). There are some specs that over-perform when receiving PI/multiple PI’s that underperform without it - so they don’t get the baseline buffs they need because with PI they are too good.

Because then you can balance the raid around base class abilities and you don’t have to worry about balancing around stacking PI/priests.

Hey Steve, did ya bring me any pizza, Steve?

BUT BUT I FIND LOGS FUN.

That’s cool. Coordinate with your raid team then to pump as well as you can. If they tell you to pound sand then deal with it and find a parsing guild.

You’d have to prove that a significant amount of these underperforming specs are the ones receiving PI most of the time. I rather imagine it is quite the opposite in reality.

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Yeah, I mean logs are all well and good. They do have very good uses, but at the same time, people with no clue…well, we get this.

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I mean I would that sounds very annoying. Let the healer chose who they want to give it to.

Ngl I usually get it but I don’t spam whisper people so idk if I’d get it more if I did that.

Honestly I doubt that PI is the determining factor in whether or not certain classes/specs get buffs.

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Well they were claiming they were being spammed with whispers. My solution was to that.

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Seems fine to me.

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It wouldn’t make sense. Why would I be giving PI to an underperforming spec in the first place?

So let more specs have external buffs? I like that plan.

Irrelevant. In both cases the Priest is responsible for that extra damage because if you kicked the Priest from the raid that damage would disappear. So it doesn’t matter which specs benefit from it more or not. I also have not seen any evidence that Blizzard makes their balancing decisions based on how well each spec performs with PI. Blizzard has their own analytic tools which are not public domain. I promise you they’re not relying on warcraftlogs to tell them when a class needs adjustments.

If stacking Priests and pouring PI into a single person created such a balance upset by being so much more effective than other compositions then you would see

  1. More people doing it
  2. Blizzard nerfing it

Neither of which are happening. I don’t see PI as such a large balance problem at the moment. I care more about how much damage a spec brings to the raid than I do that spec’s performance on warcraftlogs. Those two things will be frequently correlated, but since warcraftlogs credits the PI beneficiary for the Priest’s contribution, it’s not 100% accurate.

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Have you ever been pi’d, billy?

True.

Unless there’s a spec that scales so spectacularly well with Haste that PI alone can turn it into an absolute gigachad thunderdong hypebeast DPS, you’d just give it to a spec that’s already overperforming.

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I mean I guess that could be true, but you’d still have to have a very significant amount of that dps/priest present to skew logs enough so they did not receive proper tuning,

No, it’s nice when the healer picks you to PI. :innocent:

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