Is classic actually classic?

Have you seen videos of actual Vanilla duels and them looking different? That was what I was asking, and I’m not sure if that’s what you’re trying to say.

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Yes, and that would be a P.R. nightmare, and as much as I don’t like what Blizzard is doing with Retail and their current game development philosophies, I don’t think they’re stupid enough to not realise that.

This is exactly how I feel about the genre as well, and I think Blizzard knows that players like us are the core audience for Classic, and the most likely to stick around long-term regardless of what is going on in Retail.

Is this insane?

What did you think was going to happen when we’ve played the game for 15 years and have people from private servers that have been playing for almost ever

this group had dank gear, they have as many buffs as they could, they had a comp designed to do this

it takes them ages to kill anything and half of the trash kills are using a hunter to kite everything, the tank is kiting stuff through

they legit managed to take one of the more dull aspects and made it interesting

No. You’re a retail nub n have no idea what you’re talking about

Literally no one cares if you or “vets” play or not.

Don’t care. I’m all in.

Look who’s mad monks aren’t in classic.

I played monk for like a month bro calm down.

To sum up my thoughts: Blizzard can replicate combat values. They can’t replicate being healed by a shadow priest in agi/stam cloth who only casts while you’ve taken damage already, while you’re specced pure arms, wearing int/spirit gear and wielding a two-handed sword.

Most of Vanilla was balanced around people who didn’t know how to be uncrittable.

Even if the difficulty didn’t change, we did.

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You got to 120 in a month ? From level 1 or a boost ?

Just a FYI

Herod melee swing does nearly 500 damage per hit, blades of light does auto attack damage of 500 each tick. On a full SM geared tank.

On beta, herod hits for barely 300

Respect, I don’t have time to get into it again.

Pretty sure it was a free boost from WOD that i just finished up in BFA.

Is that from vanilla or a private server?

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Actual vanilla

Alright, can you link the video?

(Honestly curious to compare)

https ://classic.wowhead.com/npc=3975/herod#comments

Remove the spaces, I can’t link
Read the 1.12 comments about his damage. Upwards of 1k blades on clothies and Mail users

What a joke thread. It’s almost like f cking 15 years hasn’t gone by since original Vanilla WoW. People are better nowadays. They know what to do, they don’t stand in the fire, they know minor nuances and tricks to maximize the effectiveness of their class. What we saw in the video was very possible in Vanilla, yet you never saw it because people just weren’t that good back then. They didn’t run optimized specs, didn’t have an infinite amount of online resources, etc. Of course Classic isn’t going to be Vanilla, because in 2019, we do have these things.

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I took the time to look through that thread. I couldn’t find any mentions of 500-1000 dmg hits save for during blades of light.

If anything, that thread harms your case for SM being nerfed. Look at the level 40ish characters talking about soloing it, one a rogue in 2.4k hp gear. There’s even a hunter who supposedly soloed the boss at level 38 there.

A rogue has enough dodge against herod that they won’t get hit much. Vanilla hunter pets could tank things many levels higher than them due to pet armor talents.

So no, it doesn’t harm my argument.

Also, make sure you’re reading 1.12 and below comments and not tbc comments where they nerfed dungeons from vanilla.