Is classic actually classic?

Mobs do hit hard.
Unless you actually have the proper itemization (which was very very hard to do in vanilla)

You are taking an abnormal case (where itemization is near perfect) and applying it to all of classic.

MC was easy once you had fore resist gear.
Getting that gear was an entirely different story.

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You think so??? Because the oooonly reason I resubbed was to play classic where the entire game 1-60 feels challenging & I have to think about what I’m doing…

If they make enemies do no damage & I just skip around azeroth without a fear in the world, that’s retail & I will quit.

The difficulty is a huge main draw for reclaiming lost subs & blizzard is trying to get away with it. Hide garbage retail gameplay by concealing it in the vanilla wow. You get back old players who quit, while you retend the retail players because they’ll play, defeat one dungeon just as easy as they do on retail, then classic becomes their newest expansion & wow had secured subs for a year

Lvl 30 warrior - tanks 40 damage
Lvl 34 paladin - tanks 120 damage

Both using shields. Both in all mail gear. No armor buffs on either character. Same level 33-34 mob doing the damage.

Warrior is from classic relaunch
Paladin is from lights hope pserver

Why do you keep using private servers, many of which have openly admitted they overtune the content to keep things challenging, as evidence in this argument?

You’re wearing the wrong set of rose-tinted goggles. I remember having to think and to worry, too, but I was also 14 at the time I played Vanilla. WoW was my first experience of a real MMO with the “complexity” that it offered.

I don’t understand how you’re not getting this - just because a group of twinks is not getting hit by elite mobs does not mean that literally everyone will have that same experience.

Blizzard isn’t making mobs do no damage…

Gear does that. Also: hunters and warlocks where known back in vanilla for solo play and being able to do elite quests: by themselves ._.

You can never go back. Unless you have a time machine.

When everyone is bored in October bc gameplay is too easy you can talk to me then. I’m okay with agreeing to disagree until then. No itemization or out playing allows you to kill a boss 12 levels higher…

Herod wasn’t even a boss, he was an Elite.

I will repeat my previous question.

So your suggestion is for blizzard to make things more difficult then they actually where, more in line with provate servers?

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Oh yeah… So 4 levels higher on my paladin. Giving me a bare minimum of 10 higher defense skill… while being in all mail & a shield… Means I should take triple the amount of damage as a 30 warrior… Bc itemization lol… In lvl30 capped azeroth…lol

Who cares?!?!!?! Elite mobs destroy you when they’re higher level! These elites do nooooooo damage whatsoever

Make it like vanilla where I have to actually use my brain in a dungeon please

No.

Classic just wasnt as hard as your pea brain remembers.

Drugs r bad kids.

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The video was possible in classic.

So i will repeat my question: you want the difficulty to be greater than it was originally, on par with private servers?

Obviously you do; but there’s a huge distinction between a Boss and an Elite. Elites don’t hit as hard as bosses do when they’re higher than you are. If you’re decked out in full level 30 Superior Gear (which this group was) they’re hitting against players at the same level of power as a level 38-40 character.

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PfffffffHAHAHA

Blizzard has a 1.12 client in Irvine. They aren’t giving us even that.

What we are getting instead is a game with the rulesets of Vanilla from a time when years of buffs went to players and nerfs went to the npcs, a game where the itemization was overhauled for the streamlined class/raid design meta of the next expansion, and a game that’s scripted differently enough than the original that mechanics don’t play like the original despite having the original ruleset (more or less), and whatever layering is mashed all on top of it.

I like how when Classic was announced the guy was talking about ice cream and he said he like’s cookies and cream, then he dramatically says something like and some people like vanilla. This is more like butterscotch swirl with malt ball toppings.

Just buff enemy damage pleaseeeeee… that’s all that’s missing…

Then it’s no longer a genuine vanilla experience.