Not in Vanilla classic, nor TBC classic was botting so out of hand as it is now, at least in bg’s that is.Blizzard needs a better approach of how to eliminate the bots because the game is unplayable as far as bg’s are concerned.
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As long as the xpac is popular it will be infested with bots. Just like SoD got bot infested.
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It was just as bad as it was then as it is now only that it’s more blatant.
In Classic the bots were in BRD 24/7 pickpocketing the arena mobs and in TBC all of the bots were going in and out of Hellfire dungeons (mainly Ramparts iirc).
There were also blatent fishing bots along the coast of Feathermoon Stronghold and in Tanaris during Classic that I reported (which did get them banned).
Again, they’re just being more blatant in their activities.
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In their own instances where they weren’t bothering anyone.
And? Why does that matter? The fact that they’re bots doesn’t change anything.
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Their strategy toward botting as failed. Their only solution was adding the token. Of course cata classic will have bots.
Unless theyre willing to make meaningful changes so botting is reduced it will happen again.
Can’t speak for bots, but with Wrath pre-patch, Blizzard banned A LOT OF PLAYERS.
LIKE A LOT for RMT and hacking.
I’m expecting the same thing to happen with Cataclysm pre-patch.
Given how Retail has botting, and those are essentially same bots, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
The only way for bots to go away is for people to stop buying gold.
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If you’d remove gold people would find another currency, trading and how it is regulated is the main issue.
Wasn’t talking about removing gold.
Was talking about perma banning all gold buyers.
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For that they’d have to be able to tell and tons of ways exist to whitewash the gold, people that get caught are mostly bad at it. It is way easier to stop this happening at the start than at the end.
But sure if they find out they should ban for 6 months people at minimum.
Funnily, they won’t even ban streamers and high level players that have openly admitted to it.
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Ever wondered what happens with all of GDKP admin cuts for large GDKP discords?
Let’s eye ball.
Let’s say an average GKDP gets 300,000 gold pot. 10% admin cut is 30,000.
There are at least 20 runs per week.
That’s, 30,000*20= 600,000 per week into pockets of admins.
What di you think they do with this gold?
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Oh definitely any big amount of gold moving is prone to RMT, which is something you can try to regulate but Blizzard has never been really interesting in trying to do so.
Warmane, pserver, used to cut all gold in half. Straight up would delete 50% all of gold in the economy every year. xD
But there are also no GDKPs allowed.
Gold as a currency is not the root cause of RMT. It’s the effects of GDKPs. Player enforced raid loot system that encourages new comers to spend $$$ for gold.
Changes I’m hoping for in Cata
- ban of GDKPs
- per boss lockouts
Anyone can name ONE game that’s not plagued with bots or RMT nowdays?
(sure classic dev’s could do better by not abandoning their expansions and doing more often ban waves)
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I dont think anyone has the expectation of removing bots 100%. Nah, never gonna happen.
But Blizzard dropped the ball on banning RMTers.
People were getting banned for RMT…but only for 3 days at the start of Classic. And in most cases gold wasn’t even removed.
Then it went to a week, and then to 2 weeks. Streamers are not getting banned at all.
The OP seems to have that “illusion” regardless… but I dont recall a product from blizzard being this abandoned since hots or the release of ow2. All in sake of sod mind you, another thing that the classic dev’s released and it’s proven to be more successful than anything classic related so far.
Bots are still on a rampage on bgs, on the world mining/herbing or farming eternals/primals… and still selling gold under the table…
Yes, cata will be a whale based expansion with much fewer players and many whales. Which means logistically you will need more bots per whale than the bots per whale in wrath. The nature of the raids and the loot economics will be a factor, but in classic vanilla loot was scarce thus a good run could get alot of gold, same in tbc though some really hard to get items like the glaives which could only be used for dps rouges/warriors meant that they would be presold (I believe that back in the day we would see rogues and warriors in greens with the glaives who bought it). GDKP did continue in wrath but alot more we would see ticket runs where you would be carried by 24 others and get all loot you can use.
The tedius difficulty of cata raids can best be modeled by the wrath raid uld or to a much lesser extent prenerf p5 (though comparing a great expansion like tbc to cata might be a bit of a stretch and you could still run t4 in prenerf t5). A few dedicated guilds and alot of people selling the healing hammer. Only this time tedious raids will promote a similar attitude where people want to only go to make gold selling tricket runs.
As far as bg go it depends right now you can bot bg maybe get honor to turn to gems to sell. I think there is a honor trade good vendor added in cata which is good for pvp people wanting to play but also means that bots will prob run whatever is the best honor/hour. And really if they did ban them they would just level normal bot wise as bots do level fast. The only way might be continuous bans and while people who might be more honest will say things like ‘the raids were tedious but the pvp was good’ I can see a future where blizzard needs the bots to get gdkp gold, but where the pvp outcome is determined by whoever has the fewer bots.
yes of course…why wouldnt it be?
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Why wouldn’t it be? Bots will follow players to every version and realm of the game. If Blizzard isn’t bothering to protect this game, they aren’t going to bother to protect the next one in line either. SOD is already overrun with them btw.
This combats inflation. It doesn’t do a damn thing to botters. Banning GDKP also doesn’t do a damn thing to botters. People were botting long before GDKP, and they’d be botting all the same if it was prohibited. The ONLY solution for botting is for the developer to ban their accounts.
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He’s mad that he isn’t in there.
Yes, he’s argued for bot AI party members before.
And no, he doesn’t care that they’re bots. He’s argued that they “have a right to be in bgs” before, so, he’d probably extend that logic here as well.
No, he does not care that it’s against TOS, or even acknowledged it when I brought it up.
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