Well to be fair some of those servers were dead at a time when WoW had 8+Million.
I actually agree with Abomo.
I think 10 mil is a bit of an overstatement but enough to out do Retail? I think that’s very possible.
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There are currently 53 Full or High population servers in the NA region on BfA. BfA servers have a higher population cap than Classic will have when layering is removed.
There will need to be more than 53 Full or High population Classic NA servers for the numbers to even be close to BfA.
China has over 300 servers for BfA. They’re planning to launch with 8 Classic servers in China.
I feel like Frank Grimes from the Simpsons, I’m the only person thinking about this logically.
Yeah, I’ve seen in a few threads people throwing around this number as a fact because that’s what China is getting. We don’t know until they release the server list how many we are getting. People need to chill.
I am not buying game time until the Classic actually comes out. BFA is dog poo, blizzard wont see a dime of my money until the 26th. This subscribe a month early to reserve a name crap is just a lazy cash grab.
The people who have stayed subbed shouldn’t be the ones getting free name res’s imo… classic isnt for them…
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My whole thing is that WoW has lost more players than it currently has subbed.
If just a fraction of those players show up for launch Classic can out do retail.
And depending on just how high that number is at launch if just a fraction of that fraction of players stays from launch through Phase 6 it will out do retail the entire time.
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You know what is laughable? WoD had 10 million Subs! It wasn’t a good game! There just are WoW players starved to play World of Warcraft, it’s really that simple. Classic WoW is a superior version of WoW to WoD in every single way! Why is it going to be hard to get 10 million Subs? The players are out there literally waiting for Blizzard to finally release something worth playing. Now they are and that game is Classic WoW.
Wrong… Classic is superior in every way to current Retail that is unplayable. Classic isn’t for Retail players. It’s for the nearly 10 million players that can’t stand to play Retail. Who want to play an old version of the game when it was far better before it got ruined.
I will say I do feel that TBC was the most complete version of the game. However Classic at least delivers a version of WoW we can come back and Sub to and enjoy immensely!
They won’t in Classic. There doesn’t need to be Classes balance we would end up with the unplayable classes of Retail again. People would leave and seek out private servers again. This would create a loop of the same problem. People wanting to play Vanilla.
They will likely add TBC servers though and that will be easier to recreate than Classic and I am sure they have already talked about it and explored how that will launch in board meetings.
When we cross the 10 million Sub threshold Blizzard will announce it. I don’t have to claim anything. If Blizzard becomes a successful company again with great Sub numbers they will report it.
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If they truly are underestimating players to only have 8 servers, I would say they are only ready for 120,000 players max at launch. That would mean 5 full layers per server meaning 15,000 players per server at once.
Exactly!!! You get it! The fact is Retail WoW isn’t even World of Warcraft anymore. I have a hard time even calling it an MMORPG. The people that are subbed to Retail don’t enjoy REAL World of Warcraft. Classic generates a real WoW experience, something Retail can’t do. An experience that nearly 10 million people are waiting for. People that aren’t Subbed to current Retail.
Classic is for people that love WoW and Retail is for people that like something different. The game really stopped being WoW in the WotLK. That was the last real expansion and they should of stopped there.
Holy crap, the OP’s prediction is spot on compared to this junk. Just because you keep claiming you won’t play in P1 doesn’t mean no one will, hell it’s more likely that the majority of people will play in that phase than any other.
10k… rofl.
This is a fair bit of nonsense. Plenty of the people who still play Retail WoW played in Vanilla/TBC/Wrath. A lot of them still hang around because they’ve got 10+ years into their characters and don’t want to just up and drop all of that time and effort to start all over again.
Granted, I and many others are doing exactly that. Nevertheless, its fairly ignorant of you to denigrate those folks because you think preferring an old version of WoW makes you some sort of higher being.
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First couple of days maybe.
First month is pushing it.
I’ll be playing some. But many players are not ready for how vanilla was played, the shear tediousness of leveling. People complain now how it’s too long, just wait till they have to kill 100 raptors for 10 raptor hearts and so on and so forth.
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The players are out there literally waiting for Blizzard to finally release something worth playing.
You are completely off your rockers if you think even a quarter of the people that have moved on from WoW are out in the world just longing for Blizzard to release “A game worth playing”
Classic is superior in every way to current Retail that is unplayable.
That is entirely the realm of opinion… Everything about modern, retail WoW is objectively superior to Vanilla except for its design philosophy of inclusivity vs exclusivity.
AKA allowing anyone and everyone to get things with RNG and time rather than any amount of meaningful effort. People who loved Vanilla/TBC/WOTLK don’t want to play it because it offers none of the core experiences that an MMORPG is supposed to deliver: A community, meaningful progression, and immersive world that challenges you.
Even lacking all those thing, retail is still objectively a superior video game, it’s just an INFERIOR MMORPG.
There doesn’t need to be Classes balance we would end up with the unplayable classes of Retail again. People would leave and seek out private servers again. This would create a loop of the same problem. People wanting to play Vanilla.
I mean, I’m sure some untouched Classic servers will always remain, but if you think that this could draw 10 million people for any meaningful amount of time without getting changes, you’re sorely mistaken and disturbingly naive.
All the same complaints will crop up within a month of Classic launch and people will start leaving again when they realize that class balance is garbage, the classes they wanted to play cannot perform as they were advertised (Namely hybrids).
If Classic draws even half what you seem to think it will, there’s is literally -ZERO- chance of it moving forward without changes. Absolutely, positively none, whatsoever.
A snowball would have a significantly greater chance of surviving hell.
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Listen, you have got to be realistic with this.
Many view classic as the end all be all experience of WoW. The truth is so much different.
There were some specs that were so screwed up, you could barely level with them, much less raid or PvP.
People complain about spamming one spell now. Just try to roll Destro in a raid without spamming shadowbolt.
People complain about CC in PvP now, we back then you WOULD get killed in one stunlock.
Having to drink for mana after every single mob pull, and I don’t mean groups, just one single mob.
The process at every level of the game was long, tedious and required far more prep than we have now.
Yes, it will be fun to go back and play in the old world. But this is NOT the end all be all fix for WOW, and it’s longevity is a what I question.
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Classic wows population can support 10-20 servers with 1 million, no issue.
It doesn’t have to 25%. Over a 100 million people have played WoW since its inception. If 5% of those come back for Classic, that’s 5+ million. Entirely plausible. We’ll find out soon enough.
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I hope they dont. I would rather more people on fewer servers as long as they keep realm balance. Having too many servers will just dilute the experince and turn into 2004-2008 all over again where people will need to flee low pop servers.
I would instantly poop out everything I’ve ever eaten in my entire life if there were 5 million players at any point in Classic.
Classic+, maybe.
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Now that would be a sight.
I respectfully disagree, on the basis that most of the old players that “TRIED” the newer expansions are tourist like myself. I have over a year played time on this character that is naked. I beta tested BFA hoping for the best and bought it but it was launched incomplete and unplayable. So I vendored my gear and uninstalled last year.
It’s hard to let go… Also you have played with friends for many years so you log on to play with them, even if the game is bad and downhill. Until you had enough and hit that breaking point. You realize WoW is gone forever in Retail.
The largest % of people playing BFA started playing in MoP where they introduced the garbage talent system as well as appealed to the Asian market and changed WoW forever.
So when you say Plenty of players still play from Vanilla- WotLK, I say you are overusing the word plenty and most of them are tourist. They try the expansion and leave waiting for a real World of Warcraft to return. I seriously doubt the current Subs in Retail have more than 5% of old players. They are newer players that like the bad systems that were implemented!
Older players like myself want Talent trees back, we want the old gearing, professions and skills. We want the old PvP. We want World of Warcraft not what Retail has become. So Classic WoW will deliver a version that is playable for everyone that loves WoW which we don’t currently have. Retail isn’t WoW and that is why it has a low Sub count.
Classic isn’t for Retail players and it never will be. It’s for people that love World of Warcraft and want to play the MMO that started it all and have a real MMORPG experience.
This has always bothered me. We spend so much time working on clearing a raid trying to work on heroic mode or may be mythic, then new patch comes, and we just throw down our pitchforks and move on to that new shiney. Feels like such a waste of time and i’m left with a feeling of leaving a goal incomplete. They should be making the next raids much more challenging and make gear from heroic (at least) necessary to even consider moving on.
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