Is Beledar a naaru crystal

So now that you both are done keeping me entirely entertained and unwilling to interrupt with my crazy shenanigans… Back to Alynsa crazytime conspiring conspiracy theories!!!

I have to unwillingly accept that whatever Beledar was planned to be originally, it now is possibly not that. Meaning all the heaping mounds of evidence that suggests it is something from the Light, it might just end up being Azeroth’s kidney stone or something.

But see, that’s weird to me. That it could be azerite. We only have Archaedas talking about Azeroth crystal chunks the keepers/earthen found the deeper they dug and Dagran saying “yup, that’s Beledar” to back it up.

But Beledar isn’t something that was dug up. Looking around the cave ceailing around Beledar, this doesn’t look like something that sat here for a few eons. It looks exactly like it smashed through the ceiling. It has fractures around it. It very possibly dropped debris crystals all around the area (Radiant Remnants and such).

And if we’re going to give validity to Dagran’s supposition based on his interpretation of what Archaedas reported, why would we ignore Thoradin’s own vision of Beledar as a fallen star? Shouldn’t that be given equal, or even more weight? I mean, we know his vision wasn’t wrong; Beledar did exist amd Beledar is connected to the Light somehow (the fleet got teleported to Hallowfall by the Holy Light, the Light experts all talk about how its connected to the Light, etc). So he was only wrong about… The falling/fallen star part? Strange bit to be wrong about. And the fact he got the rest right from half a world away sounds more legitimate than Dagran connecting two bits of information, and we just assume Dagran’s right because he’s Dagran.

It’s also very much worth noting that Beledar’s void state only came about after being damaged. This isn’t a Xal’atath thing at all; the void state started happening after Sargeras stabbed the world. Xal’atath was still stuck in Knaifu at the time. She wasn’t the cause; the damage was. Naaru go into their own void states after suffering very serious damage. No where else did we see azerite going into a void state after Sargeras stabbed the world, so why would one large chunk be the only bit that did?

And although I keep referring to the Naaru as an example of the Light-Void cycle, Naaru aren’t the only example of crystalized substances having this cycle. The Ashbringer pre-sword forging was a void crystal that a bunch of paladins shoved their Light at, until it too cycled from void to Light again. When Ashbringer itself later became corrupted, a paladin of the Light was the one to once more turn it back Light.

And… I know, I know, “Alynsa, none of that probably matters now, it’s just Azerite.”

But it’s fun to speculate other possibilities and find all the evidence.

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No, otherwise we would all be hearing that annoying ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yeah, despite his calling it an obstacle, the Coreway to Azeroth is nowhere near Beledar. Nor is Hymosul. Maybe one of the other crystals are down there, but I’m guessing that isn’t the case.

Quite the opposite in TWW. Azeroth’s essence seems to very easily overpower Void, in fact. Magni acting as a vessel for Azeroth cleanses the dormant Earthen. This is even backed up with in-game mechanics with crystallized nodes preventing or removing debuffs.

I can’t for the life of me track it down, but I could have sworn there was some Pandaren myth about a number of stars falling to Azeroth.

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It is highly implied that Beledar is “calcified essence of Azeroth” the fact the Harranir can comune with it to talk with Azeroth makes it very linked to the world soul.

Now why does it have Light related thing? I dont really know, i suppose its because at one point of time the world soul was infused by the Light.

My theory is that Azeroth will end up being the ultimate being touched by all the cosmic Forces.

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I think there’s definitely some sort of Light connection because it has very naaru/oshu’gun-looking patterns on it. Not sure how that squares with Archaedas saying it’s just a big piece of azerite though.

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SOOOOO that’s what I saw!!! I thought my graphics setting was fooling me but I noticed after the manifold recording ( or in the manifold) she was pure gold but before that in the recording she had blue ( I also saw other colors :eyes:), maybe they were forcing her to be gold?

Yeah I appreciate everyone discussing this, I just came back and really appreciate the lore rundown so far! So, so far it is a calcified world soul crystal hmm that’s also super interesting :thinking:. Right now I’m just trying to absorb the info and stuff :slight_smile: ty everyone!

Btw I realized something … My priest has the title “Of the Nightfall” :eyes: and the achievement for it is called … The twilight zone. :sweat:

Dagran II suggested upon learning of the dark secret involving the Earthen than everyone including Archaedas may have been deceived.

I suspect that A-Zeroth is infact A-Zereth…

Zereth Lumen… Beledar is Zereth Lumen… The World Soul is just a random World Soul with no name until the Titans named it after the name given out by Zereth Lumen.

No but it is the same type of crystal that the Draenei use for their ships. Hymnsoul is the top of Beledar. And contrary to what the titan disc recordings say it is not a calcified chunk of worldsoul energy. It is a shard of light shot out from the creation of the universe and embedded it the planet. It’s unclear but it may actually contain azeroth’s worldsoul. Also I’m not sure if it actually got used or if it was just a concept that got scrapped but there was some artwork that showed a path from the Priory to a doorway in the bottom of Beledar.

Beledar is definitely not Arkonite.

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I also would like to say … one word seems to ring out to me. “ Calcified”, synonyms of calcify is to crystallize or to petrify. Definition is to harden. Very interesting. Tissue that hardens. :thinking: deposits of calcium salt that harden.

If indeed the top of Beledar it’s connection to the Elements suggest the Earthmother is inside.

Il’gynoth’s mention of a Blind Queen as well as the mention of Dimensius giving Xal’atath(who was an Eye imbedded in a Dagger until N’Zoth freed her) the Voidsong Staff would suggest the Earthmother sided with Dimensius then after shattering K’aresh arrived on Azeroth then afraid of the Old Gods who wanted the World Soul for themselves ripped out her Eyes so that they could fulfill fulfill their destiny first.

She drops Lo’sho then flies into a rage until that upstart “goddess” Elune shows up and initiates the Embrace to defeat Xal’atath leading to Xal’atath’s Eye to end up in the possession of the Black Empire to her chagrin.

Xal’atath’s goal is to get the Dark Heart and summon the First Ones(their Song the faintest of the First Ones’ Echoes destroyed K’aresh through the Staff Voidsong). Unfortunately Dimensius grabbed the Dark Heart first using his Ethereals. No doubt considering Locus Walker recognizes Xal’atath he is infact Dimensius himself.

Dimensius will be the Big Bad of Midnight with Xal’atath being the Big Bad of The Last Titan initiating the conflict in order to summon the First Ones after Dimensius’s attempt went pear shaped.

I somehow expect the entities that Xal’atath seeks to summon to be the Xel’naga due the existence of DC Comics and Marvel Comics’ Expanded Universes while the Zereths are infact the Adostra augmented by the First Ones I.E. the Protoss(counterpart to the Firstborn), Terrans and Zerg(counterparts to the Shadows).

Xal’atath and Dimensius think they know what they are doing but are infact initiating what Firim and Zovaal secretly fears: the return of Amon.

Beledar is not Hymosul. We did not hop on zeppelins and fly off to a remote island to find a crystal that was directly beneath us. The Archives seeded the existence of multiple crystals for a reason.

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Hmm I’m gonna be on the lookout for hymnsoul but I haven’t seen that yet unless someone has information. Also Azj-kahet to me is also VERY interesting… with all the sea weed and underwater motifs and assets… :eyes:

They also indirectly seeded the idea recently with SoD over in classic by having a similar crystal show up… I think it was in the eastern kingdoms?

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Do you remember what its called or if its part of a quest? I only saw the “shadowy figure” who was basically Xala’ath call the old gods trash but that was it in sod

The one near Ravenholt that totally-not-secretly-Xal’atath is near?

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That’s the one.

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Interestingggg… :eyes: well I’m excited for undermine, kaja cola lite…