Is AV Zerg really the version blizzard is releasing!?

It’s allowed. It’s a Sunday thread.

But you do have to earn said shiny thing regardless of version…

No, i clearly remember the whole “rush to belinda, dont cap sf, dont defend” in classic

That was BC, when reinforcements made rushing mandatory.

Yes in a fraction of the time afk’ing for fast losses. It takes more effort to earn in the old version, more in line with vanilla’s general effort:reward ratio.

Hmm… you can afk to rep rewards in either version.

Which takes significantly longer for rep in the version that doesn’t reward you for losing faster, i.e. 1.12

And? why do you care so much about what someone else did?

Also do you really want those swarms of people who you claim exist in your original AV version yelling for you to lose fast while they afk?

What are you even talking about? I’m saying I don’t want the version that encourages this behavior. If you want a game that rewards you for afking, play retail.

Yes those people are going to exist, but old AV doesn’t perpetuate their non-playstyle by design.

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I know that and what really annoys me is that they gave the VANILLA version that nearly everyone here asked for to BFA…

WHAT THE EVER LIVING HELL!!!?>??

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So just offer both versions.

Why does that offend you so much?

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I’ve answered this question multiple times. I’m not following your stupid bait in circles.

There are 2 major choke points in AV, if you can defend it properly there is no zerg…

you can make it last as long as you can keep your raid on the same page

It doesn’t matter what version you get, it’s going to end up as a zerg meta. Happens on private servers for both version.

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And I’m trying to understand your issue.

Why do you care if someone else enjoys a different version of AV more than the one you enjoy?

Just play the one you like.

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If you were trying to understand you wouldn’t be making me repeat myself for the fifth time. I told you, no content in the game exists in multiple versions, they pick a version that suits classic, and my point is that 1.12 AV does not suit classic because it actively promotes afk’ing for gear and removes AV’s identity and appeal. Now either stop retreading old ground or stop replying.

Yes and my point is they picked 1.12 for everything, not a franken version.

Offering multiple versions of AV would be a huge compromise on blizzard’s part. But it would offer more people a way to enjoy something in classic as such I’m wondering why you hate the idea so much. You get your verison of AV you enjoy, others get theirs. Literally noone loses.

And i completely disagree that 1.12 promotes afking and lose fast mentality, that did not happen until reinforcements were released.

Except for content. And loot tables. And AV is content.

Multiple people have explained this. Easy loot is contrary to the classic experience. Loot grinders should not just be able to avoid non-loot grinders, they should have to earn their loot against them, in the same BGs, because that’s how it was in vanilla. I already made the point about everyone playing the same BGs regardless of personal objectives.

Multiple versions of content are wholly anti-classic, so the only argument is which version is better suited for it.

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Nope, I’m not subscribed at all and I participate every day.

They time gated content and loot, they did not change it.

So then accept 1.12 AV along with the rest of 1.12 and be happy with it.