Yeah… no… the idea that everyone should be equal in BG’s didn’t become an idea until BC. When they removed the honor system so everyone had equal access to gear and added resil to diminish pve gear.
asking for a level playing field in BG’s is far more asking for retail than offering players the option of which vanilla version of a map they prefer.
Oh, can I still post?
Way to take everything I said out of context. I didn’t say level playing field you dolt, I said same playing field, as in everyone plays the same BGs, they don’t get to pick and choose versions that suit them. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re a troll and not genuinely illiterate.
Lol sorry i just noticed this particular silly nugget…
Not everyone plays the same BG’s regardless, there are three BG’s. And since in classic you will be competing with more than just pvp gear that is even more irrelevant.
And if there were both version offered and you cared so much about the gear then you would just need to do the version you considered faster then drop it and go back to whatever version you actually want to play.
Yes and not everyone chooses to do the same dungeons either, but they don’t get different versions of a piece of content because one version suits them. The different gear actually makes old AV even more relevant, since the heavier PvE aspect gives you a bigger variety of roles and ways to optimize them with different gear.
Yes and like the other poster initially said, if they let you get Naxx gear with MC, that’s what people would do. But that doesn’t mean they should. Gear should require some effort in classic.
Offering the orignal version of AV with the 1.12 version seems like a very compromise. You just seem super hung up on the concept of someone else might have a shiny thing i don’t.
And since classic is supposed to be a museum piece seems really inline with the goals. Especially since as a BG it’s particularly easy to offer multiple versions. And BTW 1.11 AV requires just as much role variety as earlier versions, you need a dedicated tank and healer.
So let people see both version side by side.
Run it for the Ice Barbed Spear and then drop it forever if it’s 1.12.
The devs don’t want Classic to get the ‘good’ version because they need to prop up retail numbers. So they are putting in the ‘not as good’ version of AV in Classic to get people back to retail.
We’ll see. I’ve been doing lots of Korrak AV in retail so maybe it’s an indication of a good strat? lol
Then they would add old AV. The current retail already exists in retail. If people wants the neurered AV, they already have it.
New AV promotes that same retail zerg spam trash that made people want classic in the first place
Nice tinfoil hat theory
Umm… no the version we’re getting in classic is not the version with reinforcements.
So no it is not the retail version.
One, stop putting words in my mouth, and two, why would I care if I would get both versions also? It’s obviously not about that.
Citation needed. Where the hell did you pull that out of? No other content exists in multiple versions. Also, they’re releasing phase content based on player response. Their concern is apparently, and should be, about delivering a particular gameplay experience, not just letting people sightsee every version of content.
Yeah, they’ve made it quite clear that their concern is with delivering the patch 1.12 experience with gated content to stop half the playerbase from blowing through everything up to and including Naxxramas in a month.
Then why do you consistently shoot down the option?
That’s from blizzard 
you can find the quote yourself.
as for the experience they want to deliver, they want to deliver 1.12. offering both versions of AV would be a huge compromise.
Well yes, my point is that it’s not about displaying a museum piece, not that they’re doing everything right.
Yes. Because im sure when people think of classic AV they think if 1.12 zergfest just without the reincarnation counter at the top.
That’s why people wanted class wow. To play the exact same AV they already have access to, but just without the reinforcements.
1.12 wasn’t a zerg fest.
That didn’t happen until reinforcements, which we aren’t getting.
Go to retail then, this is classic.
Hold your opinion till you can actually queue for bgs.
Absolutely it did. It became the meta. Of course, there would be games where youd have the usual back and forth stalemates but those were from people actively trying to cause a stalemate
Why do you consistently go in circles? It’s like talking to a child. You assumed my gripe is about someone else having a shiny thing, when under your system I would have the same shiny thing, so that’s idiotic. My point is that everyone should have to earn their shiny thing.
The onus is on you to substantiate your claims. It was never an accurate recreation because people weren’t doing phase 1 with 1.12 talents, so please throw this garbage argument where it belongs. People want key aspects of the vanilla experience and old AV is one of them.
No it became the meta in late BC when reinforcements were added