Ion Hazzikostas has confirmed the fall back plan is to open up covenants

[Huntardia-whitemane]

@Timbaeslice-frostmourne

I want the backup plan now.

You can’t always get what you want.

You Can't Always Get What You Want

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

@Mellin-bleeding-hollow

I actually disagree with that. I think at this point in WoW’s history it is unreasonable given the dev’s recent actions. We think it’s a fiasco, but they could for some reason think it was a good idea. But they’re delusional.

It is close to unreasonable at this point to think that the game will no longer have convoluted power grinds that lock you in to a certain style of play that can be right or wrong, just like Legion Artifacts and Legendaries, this is Blizzard’s new WoW.

The game isn’t changing from this style, and we either have to get used to it or just play something else.

You’re right, but my and many other’s beef with covs is loss of choice and flexibility.

Covs in general sound pretty cool, but being locked into/out of player power does not.

[Floofshire-area-52]

The only thing that Ion is out of touch with is just how horrible and exclusive this community is. Imagine telling someone they can’t join your dungeon group because they didn’t pick the covenant that you feel is the ‘right’ one.

[Sernius-proudmoore]

Can’t say that I’m surprised.

[Mellin-bleeding-hollow]

@Paeldryth-hyjal

Covs in general sound pretty cool, but being locked into/out of player power does not.

You seem to think I don’t agree with you; I do. As someone who likes to get AotC and push arena rating with my IRL friends my Covenant choice for PvP and PvE is completely different for power reasons. I don’t like the power ideas either.

My point is I don’t understand why people are expecting something different. Blizzard has been disappointing it’s player base for going on 8 years now, so why would I get my hopes up?

I have low expectations and thus don’t get disappointed. That is the point I’m trying to make here. People are getting pissed off at Blizzard because they have this fantasy in their head that one day the devs and higher ups at Blizzard will wake up and make the game like Wrath again. It’s just not going to happen.

[Prophets-emerald-dream]

Is it bad I have no clue what any of this is about? Cliff Notes?

[Dramurah-stormrage]

Can only hope they choose to open it up sooner rather than the final patch of the expansion

[Roflsauce-daggerspine]

I’m glad Preach spoke up for the community.

I don’t see why blizzard keeps giving us systems that the payers do not want.

We don’t need these systems. We want something that is fun, balanced and gives us a great reason to log on and play.

[Udoeak-dathremar]

At least Ion is humouring the idea that covenant systems might be a disaster and has a backup plan for them unlike Azerite traits, essences, and Corruption wherein the community told him numerous times they were borked and he just stuck his head in the sand and screamed until the voices stopped.

[Mcbeardy-bleeding-hollow (Mcbeardy)]

its not a backup plan its the plan they know WILL work but they are going to push ahead with the one that has multiple issues that have been stated on the forums and youtube by many different individuals.

[Aruk-llane]

Some members of the community would prefer this become an action game with no leveling component and nearly every ability accessible to everyone. Should he listen to them?

[Gnomenclatur-detheroc]

So if you don’t have a contingency plan, you’re a bad game director.

And if you do have a contingency plan, you’re a bad game director.

oooooooooookaaayyyyyyy

[Eyereign-wyrmrest-accord]

As someone said earlier, they’re dam.ned if they do, dam.ned if they don’t. Can’t please everybody.

[Bouncyballs-illidan]

I’m not a fan with Blizzard’s direction here, but this thread is disingenuous.

[Paeldryth-hyjal (Paeldryth)]

I suppose it’s the vain hope that someone with power notices the drop from Legion to BFA and suggests not repeating the same mistakes.

[Lyeffion-uther (Lyeffion)]

What I don’t understand is that the problem (basically boils down to one OP covenant ability out of four) is readily identifiable, so either nerf that one or build up the other three.

There’s your backup plan.

Instead, you’re going to take a major part of the general storyline and blow it up by opening up the entire system? Why have a system in the first place? Why construct a backup plan that carries a lot of collateral damage with it when you can much more easily fix it now?

[Mcbeardy-bleeding-hollow (Mcbeardy)]

i have an update for your computer that will make it run 10 times faster than it already does but im not going to install it and make your experience better because your computer already functions just fine. this is the logic at work here.

[Mellin-bleeding-hollow]

Yeah, we’d expect for them to see something, but they either have some awesome statistics that prove us wrong (which I don’t think exist), or they just don’t care enough and they want to go through with their “vision”.

[Mettlelight-illidan]

Problem is it’s too late by then. By the time they listen the player base plummets and doesn’t return…

[Statíc-stormrage]

The fact they still have time to change course and make this system available at a later time is just frustrating.

For just once give those folks that you asked Blizz to test your game prescient and listen to what they are saying.