INC more MM buffs!

683K health with dark pact.

Do you want to bet Iā€™m hitting 500k chaos bolts?

How you going to tell me Iā€™m not doing something Iā€™ve been doing all morning

Itā€™s come up quite a bit, but I donā€™t think adding more damage is the solution to MMā€™s problems in arena. They need better self-sustain. Iā€™d start with lowering the cooldown on itā€™s aspects. This is not an issue they really have in random BGs because you arenā€™t fighting in an enclosed space so you can kite things out.

I wasnā€™t really talking about 1v1s there. I just imagine that it isnā€™t fun getting killed in two GCDs while fighting someone else from a hunter that is off of your screen.

In terms of 1v1, the only spec I canā€™t really find any enjoyment in fighting is sub rogue. Way too many ways to ā€œcheat deathā€ and reset the fight to their advantage.

Cause I play the spec. I know how hard it hits. You arenā€™t hitting 500k chaos bolts on non tanks with at least honor gear and no orb/flag. I hit a 700k shadowburn in a rated BG the first week of the season. Numbers mean nothing without context.

I literally havenā€™t seen you in a BG once this season, and Iā€™m also on alliance. You get so defensive when people call you out for making stuff up. You wanna post videos disproving it? Go ahead. Also again, no one cares what damage you can do with a 4 man preform built around increasing the damage of one ability. This entire discussion has been about class performance in and of itself. MM hunter baseline outperforms Destro baseline. End of discussion. Feel free to reopen it with a video of you solo queueing in BGs repeatedly globalling people in 1vX situations.

You arenā€™t farming him. He plays on alliance and typically doesnā€™t start queuing until after 12 AM EST and plays til around 5 AM EST. :slight_smile:

I didnā€™t play shadowlands or most of BFA. My honor level is entirely from Legion and DF. Next

You win half your bgs, in a duo

How is it broken

I queue on other classes aside from MM hunter lmaoā€¦ I also rarely ever have a healer and when I do, he focuses on the team fights and objectives not on pocket healing me. My win rate on MM hunter with a healer in a trio queue is significantly higher than 50%. In fact I donā€™t remember the last time we lost a normal BG that way. But thereā€™s only been about 10 of those this season.

Yeah, heā€™s a total jerk. :rage:

Vanazar your friend is a dork lol

Hereā€™s some changes iā€™d make to MM that wouldnā€™t ruin the class:

  • You canā€™t scatter while disarmed. This adds counterplay to the burst
  • Considering throwing a downside on sniper shot. Make it so taking sniper shot increases the cooldown on feign death by a %

No, he isnā€™t. A single player canā€™t change the outcome of a match if the team is bad. If the team is good, MM will often be top KBs. If the team is bad they will often be top KBs for their side, at least.

Judging strength of a spec based on win rate solo queueing into random 10 and 15 man BGsā€¦ Your ability to think critically and comprehend basic logic is staggeringā€¦

Oh the irony

Canā€™t even fathom how one could hit a 400k chaos bolt, but youā€™re insulting peoples intelligence.

Bravo man.

Bravo.

Itā€™s sad how everytime you lose an argument/discussion you immediatly do personal attacks on the other person/persons

I said 500k. 400k is fine. Iā€™ve hit 300+k without skyfury and DA. 500k doesnā€™t happen. Still waiting on a video disproving it.

500k on a tank not possible?

You sure?

400-500k is a range man.

Thereā€™s a high and a low end.

You really struggle with reading comprehension lmao. Read my original post. You arenā€™t hitting 500k chaos bolts on non tank, honor geared players without orb/flag.

Thatā€™s fine dude, enjoy your 120k chaos bolts and 50% win rate

Ima enjoy my 80% and 400ks

Take care <3

Makes them a nightmare vs melee. game already doesnā€™t have enough melee

Adding more ways for melee to counter hunter, and making them less slippery when they have a 60 yard range seems like a good way to attack it

when Iā€™m on my lock I feel itā€™s annoying when they are purely playing around sniper shot, and then when I finally connect they just feign/cammo away. If you want to run sniper shot, if a caster gets ahold of you, it should be death.

No one plays sniper shot anyway in arena, would be a good idea to do a upside/downside imo

MM needs better self-sustain in arena and a lot of melee needs better self-sustain in BGs. Too bad we donā€™t have separate balancing for both game modes. But, overall, yesā€¦ I think itā€™s not good for ranged to be putting out more damage per unit of uptime than melee since ranged has more uptime.

My roots are with playing melee, but in DF Iā€™d much rather play ranged. Especially without a healer.