INC more MM buffs!

You do realize they balance in 3s?

In 3s MM and BM aint htat good

So much wrong information in this thread

New MM hunter here.

It seems like a better opener would be
camo
sniper
binding shot first to lock them down
death chakram (or maybe aimed shot because of the careful aim talent that increases aimed shot damage by 50% if the target is above 70% health hp)
rapid fire
kill shot etc

Right?

Also, which talent causes ice trap/steel trap to stun?

And which is the “SS” talent? Ah, you must have meant the sniper shot pvp talent.

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SS is Serpent Sting, when you cast a successful Aimed Shot it automatically adds that dot.

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Stack mastery. Haste and crit are bad on MM. Play trueshot with trueshot mastery pvp talent. Sniper shot is a great opener. Don’t waste GCDs on traps/CC if you aren’t being pressured and/or there isn’t a healer. Sniper shot will usually put your target below the 70% hp threshold for the aimed shot talent, that’s fine. Use death chakram, explosive shot, rapid fire as follow up. If the target is still alive and not in kill shot range then trueshot into aimed shots, weaving arcane shots in when you have the increased damage buff from doing an aimed shot.

MM is a noob stomper

So many classes do more damage than MM

Can’t peal?

Can’t heal?

Can’t hit a defensive?

You’re not gonna have fun vs mm

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This is Alyrico (Alaydrica) before the latest MM changes. His gear is a bit further along than mine, so hits a bit harder. This is kind of nearing top end for the potential damage output with procs and buffs.

The first kill he has the potent venom proc adding around 2K mastery.

330k just isn’t that much in the current patch.

You were killing 550k hp locks without walls up

Locks can have north of 800k hp rn

You could make a video of any class globaling players

I haven’t been in a bg and been like “yo shut down this MM” in a very long time

We were just running rsham/boomy/destro/darkarch pi with my lock. 400k-500k bolts aoe cleaving everyone. I got 7 kbs in like 4 seconds lol

But not from 60+ yards away while taking little to no pressure or CC. Or, as frequently.

That is one of the things that makes MM hunter so strong in random BGs. They have huge uptime, because they are so far away from real danger.

Damage is really good till someone reacts to it

I just don’t see mm as a problem because i properly react to the damage. I play my MM and I can kill people who are bad, but when I face a team of good players I just get rolled

If you were to nerf it’s range you’d have to buff something else

deathwish fury warrior max geared does 450k+ odyns fury hits rn and that hits EVERYONE.

“Deathwish doesn’t work against good players.” I mean Freak from randoms plays it at 2100 rn in rbgs with a 75% win rate lol. Keep in mind hero is 2100.

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That’s what Nameplate Cooldowns is for. :wink:

You go after the people that can’t react to it.

I’d say, “Deathwish doesn’t work unless you are with good players.” :wink:

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Do you really think MM is better than destro/sub/boomy/firemage/affliction/ele?

I just don’t see the point of complaining about a mid tier spec

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Excluding sub and for solo queueing? Absolutely. You aren’t nearly as dependent on your team for having success and your overall kill to death ratio should be very high.

For a premade with two healers, other things would be better.

good sub rogue just duel healers out of the fight

and cc everyone

I was excluding sub rogue from saying MM would always be better solo queueing since their roles are so different and sub can play the low risk/high reward game as well.

So you hate hunter because it’s easy and safe? I can relate to that I hate all ranged specs for that reason lol

I don’t hate hunters, I just think they are broken for random BGs and probably aren’t a lot of fun to play against for a lot of people.

What would you change on it

“nerf damage” isn’t a solution

Also what is a class that is enjoyable to fight in the current patch lol?

The first lock literally has 683k health… You arent hitting 500k chaos bolts outside of tanks/orbs/flags. 300k aimed shots going off in under half a second with trueshot is more impactful than chaos bolts that take 1s+ to cast. I’ve played both destro and MM this season and last. Last season destro was more impactful in team fights before havoc nerf and crit nerf. This season with all the crafted gear and the rates you can stack Mastery to, MM is stronger. View things outside of the lens of having dark arch+pi+pocket healer… This isn’t rated bgs